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no, i was asking a question - fuq off wit ur pingsIn post 24, Something_Smart wrote:
*ping*In post 20, Hiraki wrote:how do you TR Something??? draynath i get but something???
caught, gg btd, we tried so hard :'(In post 27, Transcend wrote:he isn't town
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Mind elaborating?In post 29, Transcend wrote:because i think he's town and i don't like the way you've posted so far"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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On both points that is.In post 34, Draynth wrote:
Mind elaborating?In post 29, Transcend wrote:because i think he's town and i don't like the way you've posted so far
Specifically, why do you think Something_Smart is town?
What don't you like about the way he's been posting? Why does this fact lead you to believe he is scum?"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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From reading what has happened, something seems to be at least a bit suspicious. Transcend's naked vote on SS, which was L-1, seems to be essentially a White Flag Gambit. Such a gambit can easily be performed by scum, as at that stage Transcend could easily be Townread and there would be very little chance of the lynch actually going through. Transcend could also self-vote and know that they are highly unlikely to be hammered. For this reason, Transcend/SS looks like a likely pair.
Perhaps we could try the pairing method.
Transcend/Draynth
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Mind explaining the bolded part? It was his first post, how would he be townread?In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote:From reading what has happened, something seems to be at least a bit suspicious. Transcend's naked vote on SS, which was L-1, seems to be essentially a White Flag Gambit. Such a gambit can easily be performed by scum, as
at that stage Transcend could easily be Townread and there would be very little chance of the lynch actually going through
I like the part about the self vote. If transcend is scum, then they are either going to be hammered by their scum partner (earning them credibility) or a townie who will inevitably be screwed after that.In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote: Transcend could also self-vote and know that they are highly unlikely to be hammered. For this reason, Transcend/SS looks like a likely pair.
Perhaps we could try the pairing method.
Transcend/Draynth
SS/Hiraki
I don't understand 'the pairing method'. You say that Transcend/SS is a likely pair (I'd like more on that please) yet you also say that Transcend/Draynth is a thing?"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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If Transcend is scum, they really do not want to be hammered. If scum is lynched on Day 1, they lose.In post 37, Draynth wrote:
Mind explaining the bolded part? It was his first post, how would he be townread?In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote:From reading what has happened, something seems to be at least a bit suspicious. Transcend's naked vote on SS, which was L-1, seems to be essentially a White Flag Gambit. Such a gambit can easily be performed by scum, as
at that stage Transcend could easily be Townread and there would be very little chance of the lynch actually going through
I like the part about the self vote. If transcend is scum, then they are either going to be hammered by their scum partner (earning them credibility) or a townie who will inevitably be screwed after that.In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote: Transcend could also self-vote and know that they are highly unlikely to be hammered. For this reason, Transcend/SS looks like a likely pair.
Perhaps we could try the pairing method.
Transcend/Draynth
SS/Hiraki
I don't understand 'the pairing method'. You say that Transcend/SS is a likely pair (I'd like more on that please) yet you also say that Transcend/Draynth is a thing?
The pairing method is basically this:
I divide the other four players into two pairs, and if we lynch a Townie in one of the pairs they kill hte other member of the pair. For example, if we lynch you and you are Town, you would shoot Transcend by this pairing method.
The aim is to get the scum team in two different pairs, which guarantees that even if we mislynch a Townie outside a pair they will kill scum so we don't instantly lose."one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714- BTD6_maker
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It's the principle behind the White Flag Gambit. Basically, if everyone knows that if scum is lynched scum will lose instantly (for example here), they may be inclined to regard a scum pair as unlikely if one of them puts the other to L-1. This is because it would be very risky for scum to do this, allowing a hammer which ends the game. The White Flag Gambit is basically doing just that so that Town thinks the pair is unlikely. While it is risky, here Transcend did it when there was very little chance of it failing and actually getting SS lynched, so it seems that he tried to use the White Flag Gambit and minimise the risk at the same time, which ultimately makes it less effective.In post 37, Draynth wrote:
Mind explaining the bolded part? It was his first post, how would he be townread?In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote:From reading what has happened, something seems to be at least a bit suspicious. Transcend's naked vote on SS, which was L-1, seems to be essentially a White Flag Gambit. Such a gambit can easily be performed by scum, as
at that stage Transcend could easily be Townread and there would be very little chance of the lynch actually going through
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Hmm, thanks for explainingIn post 38, BTD6_maker wrote:
If Transcend is scum, they really do not want to be hammered. If scum is lynched on Day 1, they lose.In post 37, Draynth wrote:
Mind explaining the bolded part? It was his first post, how would he be townread?In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote:From reading what has happened, something seems to be at least a bit suspicious. Transcend's naked vote on SS, which was L-1, seems to be essentially a White Flag Gambit. Such a gambit can easily be performed by scum, as
at that stage Transcend could easily be Townread and there would be very little chance of the lynch actually going through
I like the part about the self vote. If transcend is scum, then they are either going to be hammered by their scum partner (earning them credibility) or a townie who will inevitably be screwed after that.In post 36, BTD6_maker wrote: Transcend could also self-vote and know that they are highly unlikely to be hammered. For this reason, Transcend/SS looks like a likely pair.
Perhaps we could try the pairing method.
Transcend/Draynth
SS/Hiraki
I don't understand 'the pairing method'. You say that Transcend/SS is a likely pair (I'd like more on that please) yet you also say that Transcend/Draynth is a thing?
The pairing method is basically this:
I divide the other four players into two pairs, and if we lynch a Townie in one of the pairs they kill hte other member of the pair. For example, if we lynch you and you are Town, you would shoot Transcend by this pairing method.
The aim is to get the scum team in two different pairs, which guarantees that even if we mislynch a Townie outside a pair they will kill scum so we don't instantly lose."just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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BT6, what are your reads so far (if any) on SS and Hiraki?"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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SS is a weak scumread, but this read is mostly contingent on Transcend being scum.
Hiraki is very weak Town, but more due to the way Transcend is voting him without reasons. I think that if Transcend/Hiraki was the scumteam, Teanscend may have been more likely to vote second, to make it a more visible White Flag Gambit."one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714- Draynth
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I want to come back to this later, but noted for now.In post 42, BTD6_maker wrote:SS is a weak scumread, but this read is mostly contingent on Transcend being scum.
Hiraki is very weak Town, but more due to the way Transcend is voting him without reasons. I think that if Transcend/Hiraki was the scumteam, Teanscend may have been more likely to vote second, to make it a more visible White Flag Gambit.
@Something_Smart, who do you think are the scum pair and why?"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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what do you mean by that?In post 44, Something_Smart wrote:Hiraki pings me"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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Is that an OMGUS vote or an actual vote (I'm not asking for your reasoning, just that you have some)
"just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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Interesting, I was thinking the same thing.In post 48, Transcend wrote:Posts are weird
Pre flip associations are bad
Don't think they're genuine
Even if BTD is town (right now I don't think he is) it's still a tossup as to whether this 'pairing method' works or not. There's a 50/50 chance of getting 1 scum 1 town on each team, and 2 scum / 2 town respectively (If BTD is town)."just got my hands in cooking! feel free to give me suggestions. So far completed: noodle in soup, noodle stuffed clam over noodle, red white and bluedle american noodle, hot brown noodle"
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