Micro 737: Chosen Mafia (Day 4)

[Mulch]

I'm in a really bad mood at the moment would you guys mind if I held off on this game until tomorrow?

[Keychain]

Go for it, Mulch.

I only noticed until after people started pointing it out.

Dear heart, would you mind expanding on that just a bit?
Like by talking about what you meant by trying to get reactions, and what reactions you got?
You're in kind of a precarious position right now.

[Umlaut]

Official Vote Count 1.05

Bulbazoor

(3): tman2nd, PMysterious, Gorny

PMysterious

(2): BTD6_maker, Lil Uzi Vert

Gorny

(2): Mulch, Keychain

Not Voting

(2): Dunnstral, Bulbazoor

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2017-08-24 06:37:00)

Notes

• Lil Uzi Vert is V/LA from now through 8/21.
  
• tman2nd will be V/LA from 8/20 - 8/23.

[PMysterious]

I only noticed until after people started pointing it out.

So, you only noticed the L-1 until after people started to point it out, yet you were looking for reactions. Wouldn't putting someone at L-1 without reason give the most reaction?

It's a contradiction in itself, and I am becoming convinced that you were doing this with the intent on trying to get a quickhammer with your scum partner or a village idiot. Either way, a quickhammer would have been in your best interest, and the "I was looking for reactions" excuse was to seem like you're Town.

I'm seeing a web of lies from Bulbafake, and all of the lies leads to one conclusion. Bulba, is Mafia Scum (not the website).

[tman2nd]

I think he answers your questions here.

Here's where I didn't unvote to get reactions. I saw all of you asking me to unvote prior but left the vote up for a bit longer in case I could gauge some reactions out of you guys since the game is still at an early stage. That's why I didn't respond to the votes at that particular time.

[Keychain]

Oh hey. I don't know if you're talking to me or PM, but I think I just needed to think about that a bit longer. I thought that quote contradicted 66, but maybe it's just confusingly worded. So he deliberately didn't unvote in 44 in order to get reactions?

Questions on what reactions he got still stand.

I only noticed until after people started pointing it out.

So, you only noticed the L-1 until after people started to point it out, yet you were looking for reactions.

Wouldn't putting someone at L-1 without reason give the most reaction?

It's a contradiction in itself, and I am becoming convinced that you were doing this with the intent on trying to get a quickhammer with your scum partner or a village idiot. Either way, a quickhammer would have been in your best interest, and the "I was looking for reactions" excuse was to seem like you're Town.

I'm seeing a web of lies from Bulbafake, and all of the lies leads to one conclusion. Bulba, is Mafia Scum (not the website).

(bolding mine)

Can you give your opinion on any other players? You jumped on Bulba pretty early. Though if you're town, I suppose you've got more reason than anyone else to be paranoid that he was trying to quickhammer a Chosen townie.
I'd also like more explanation on the bolded - I have no idea what you mean here.

Dunnstral hasn't really made any actual stances. He's only really pointed to things.

This one was disappointing!
Dunn, how do you feel about Bulba being at L-1, and what are your thoughts on tman now?
Anything else you'd like to share?

[tman2nd]

Oh hey. I don't know if you're talking to me or PM, but I think I just needed to think about that a bit longer. I thought that quote contradicted 66, but maybe it's just confusingly worded. So he deliberately didn't unvote in 44 in order to get reactions?

Questions on what reactions he got still stand.

That's what it seems like to me. But, yeah I would like what he got from the reactions as well.

[Bulbazoor]

When I get around to it, I'll post a list with my reads.

[Gorny]

I'm awfully suspicious of Dunn and not buying the "post restriction"

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Mulch]

I'm extremely sorry but I may have to push this once again. I may be able to do stuff in like 2 hours

[Keychain]

I'm awfully suspicious of Dunn and not buying the "post restriction"

VOTE: Dunnstral

Can you explain how you got to this, from your previous position voting Bulba? Did you think about your answer to Mulch's question at all?

When I get around to it, I'll post a list with my reads.

Yes please! Sooner rather than later, if possible.

[tman2nd]

I'm extremely sorry but I may have to push this once again. I may be able to do stuff in like 2 hours

Could you answer my question in 123?

[tman2nd]

Sorry I meant to quote Gorny there.

[tman2nd]

When I get around to it, I'll post a list with my reads.

I hope you get around to it before I have to go early tomorrow morning.

[Keychain]

@tman: We seem to be doubling up on questions to Gorny regarding his lacklustre 119. I was trying to be a bit more vague about it though, to see if he'd already realised he wasn't making sense between his posts and his vote. He hasn't answered either of us though so I'm not sure where that's going. Will you be back for deadline or do you have to decide on a final vote before you go?

@Gorny: a response to 121 would also be awesome. I'm currently deciding whether to start my campaign for your lynch in earnest. I think you're a much better bet for scum than Bulba right now.
And the number of people who are just sitting back and watching makes me think that scum are counting on plurality lynch to take out townies for them without having to do much work at all.
(in particular, BTD6 and Dunnstral, and to some extent PMysterious)

[tman2nd]

I will be back late on Wednesday, so if a lynch hasn't been decided by then, I will be there probably at least 5 hours before the deadline. At most probably 7. So, I might have a chance to change my vote if I need to.

[Mulch]

Ok, I'm here.

[Mulch]

Early on, it seems someone could potentially try and lurk away a wagon because it's unlikely to go through based on lack of content.

It's possible ,but I feel like bulby is approaching TWTBAW. I also think the stagnated wagons might indicate town at the lead end. It just dosen't seem natural for Bulba scum here. But, again, I don't want to be that guy that white knighted the scum that we were about to lynch. But his just shockingly transparent apathy...

[Mulch]

TBH Tman did two things that I consider a pretty decent scumtell in being too self aware in explaining votes, and quoting someone's post and saying "this." like, in 116.


The thing really scummy for me here is the deflection on how they didn't respond to the UZI point, by saying "I could pressure him but not him."

I mean, I guess that could be a valid explanation. But really? You didn't even think someone else was scummy based on pressure? The things aren't really related to each other.

not the most incriminating thing though.

[Mulch]

Gorny, mysterious, and tman are the scummiest after a quick read. Gorny, why do you think bulbs would be so blatantly putting people at l-1 as either allignment? Like, assume he's town and then that he's scum. Why would he do these things?

Don't know. Only he can answer that question and I bet he won't do so.

Random guess, if he's town, he might be trying to get a reaction out of people.

If he's scum...well.

Here's the thing. I think you realized what I was trying to go with these questions. You here say that there is no reason for him to do this as scum, but are still scumreading him for it. The two ideas don't line up.

[Mulch]

As for why I'm not voting you, I'm still sorting the game.

[Mulch]

Right now I'm wondering if BTDmaker could be scum. They've done 3 huge wall posts on theory, but haven't been involved in the game. I need more from them.

[Mulch]

128 reads as pretty fake to me btw. Anyone else get that vibe?

[Keychain]

I feel like bulby is approaching TWTBAW.

What does that acronym mean?

The thing really scummy for me here is the deflection on how they didn't respond to the UZI point, by saying "I could pressure him but not him."

To be honest that only makes sense to me as being scummy as an associative thing - like he's avoiding pressuring his partner too hard.

I actually think tman has been looking a lot more towny in recent posts - his response to my questions has been less making excuses and more trying to set me straight.

But, again, I don't want to be that guy that white knighted the scum that we were about to lynch.

This is a really odd concern for town to have, Mulch.

[Mulch]

I feel like bulby is approaching TWTBAW.

What does that acronym mean?

The thing really scummy for me here is the deflection on how they didn't respond to the UZI point, by saying "I could pressure him but not him."

To be honest that only makes sense to me as being scummy as an associative thing - like he's avoiding pressuring his partner too hard.

I actually think tman has been looking a lot more towny in recent posts - his response to my questions has been less making excuses and more trying to set me straight.

But, again, I don't want to be that guy that white knighted the scum that we were about to lynch.

This is a really odd concern for town to have, Mulch.

1) too Wolfy to be a wolf

2) I've been getting gut town vibes from him too.

3) not really, I've been pretty shit my last few town games and I'm pretty self conscious at the moment.