- callforjudgement
- MarioManiac4
- GuiltyLion
- A Simple PlanNot_Mafia
- Carcalilly
- TheBrie
- cdserrapalidin
- Dunkerdoodles
Micro 741: Reverse Mafia (mafia win)
- pisskop
-
pisskop Survivor
- pisskop
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 31779
- Joined: November 14, 2013
Micro 741: Reverse Mafia (mafia win)
Backup Mod: Something_Smart
PlayerlistLast edited by pisskop on Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:30 am, edited 4 times in total.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.- pisskop
-
pisskop Survivor
- pisskop
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 31779
- Joined: November 14, 2013
Rules:- All site rules apply.
- If a game is in progress, don't mention it!
- Play to win.
- Enjoy yourself; others may follow your example.
- All text must be readily readable, in legible script, and fully visible. No encrypted or otherwise coded text.
- I have the final say in all matters. Questions may be PMed to me or bolded @me in-thread.
- Do not quote any PM sent by me to you that regards this game. Paraphrasing is fine.
- Do not discuss this game anywhere else, unless specifically cleared by me.
- Prods will be issued at 48 hours of inactivity in the thread. Prods not responded to within 24 hours and players with more than 2 prods will be replaced at my discretion.
- is my color as moderator. Do not us it!Bolded Blue
- Vote by using either the 'bold' or 'vote' tags. Abbreviated names can be used. Votes should be on their own line, separated from other text. If I think its a vote for a player then its a vote; if I do not then it is not! Please be clear!
- A lynch will occur as soon as a player receives sufficient votes. Players may talk until the thread closes.
- Days will last 14 days and nights 2 days.
- All actions must be submitted at least 1 hour before the deadline of the phase. Any actions submitted after will not be accepted.
- I will offer 'Accelerated Nights' if a simple majority of the players as well as every player capable of acting or talking at night PMs me and asks for it.
- Please spoiler large(r) images and keep in mind that mobile and low speed users will have difficulty accessing the game if it gets spammed with large images and youtube videos.
- Hydra Players should make an effort to stay in Hydra.
In the spirit of being completely clear: All scum chats are active during the day.*
Spoiler: PMs:
Good luck, my glorious lemmings!Last edited by pisskop on Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:28 am, edited 1 time in total.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.- pisskop
-
pisskop Survivor
- pisskop
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 31779
- Joined: November 14, 2013
GAME WILL BEGIN WHEN 6/8 PLAYERS CONFIRM IN-THREAD. VOTES MADE BEFORE WILL NOT COUNT; THOSE MADE AFTER BUT BEFORE I POST A VC WILL.
Last edited by pisskop on Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:20 am, edited 2 times in total.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.- MarioManiac4
-
MarioManiac4 Jack of All Trades
- MarioManiac4
- cd
-
cd
- MarioManiac4
-
MarioManiac4 Jack of All Trades
- MarioManiac4
- GuiltyLion
-
GuiltyLion he/himSurvivor
- GuiltyLion
he/him- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 13829
- Joined: August 19, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: Seattle, WA
- Dunkerdoodles
-
Dunkerdoodles
- A Simple Plan
-
A Simple Plan Mafia Scum
- A Simple Plan
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1072
- Joined: April 4, 2013
- Carcalilly
-
Carcalilly She/HerMafia Scum
- Carcalilly
She/Her- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3579
- Joined: August 15, 2015
- Pronoun: She/Her
- callforjudgement
-
callforjudgement Microprocessor
- callforjudgement
- Microprocessor
- Microprocessor
- Posts: 3972
- Joined: September 1, 2011
/confirm
@A Simple Plan: In a game like this, youreallyneed to read at least the victory conditions in the sample Role PM. (They might not be what you're expecting.)
Specifically, in this setup, we want to lynch townies (and leave scum alive).
Last time this setup was run on mafiascum.net, town adopted a strategy of aiming to vote off nulltown players; the idea is that if a player is very townish, you perhaps don't want to lynch them immediately, so that they can continue to scumhunt (although as they're town, you want to lynch them eventually, but you can do that closer to lywi). I was a little dubious about the strategy then, and still am now, but I can't deny that it worked. It does require a lot of effective townhuntingandscumhunting D1.
My advice would be to lynch players early if they're easy to read early, and lynch them late if they're easy to read late (and of course, only lynch players who we're collectively reading as town). For example, I probably wouldn't make a great lynch today, as I nearly always look town early in the game regardless of alignment. Of course, that doesn't mean I won't self-hammer if I get the opportunity.
As a reminder, don't put someone to L-1 unless you're sure that they're town, as scum will just self-hammer in that situation (and town probably will too), and we only get one mislynch.
Normally at this point I'd put a vote out on the player I thought was the best lynch for the day, but nobody's posted anything but confirmations and I'm not experienced with enough of the playerlist to know which players would be easiest to read. I'm not capable of scumhunting off confirmation posts, like mastina is. So I'll hold my vote for the moment. I'd be very interested in what other people think of a) the strategy of the game, b) people's alignments, though. (Just because this game is mostly about townhunting, that isn't a reason not to scumhunt! Scum can't take much advantage from knowing people's reads because they don't have a nightkill, and because nearly all the Mafia games on this site are about scumhunting, scumhunting will make you easier to read. Not to mention, if we do identify scum, we can refuse to lynch them all game and make it very hard for them to win.)
@Mod: What happened to the rule (that's part of the setup) that players can't self-vote except if it's a hammer?scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- MarioManiac4
-
MarioManiac4 Jack of All Trades
- MarioManiac4
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9179
- Joined: May 1, 2015
strategy for me in this game will probably be just townhunting
lynching nulltowns is good until you run into the situation where mafia are nulltown- i'd prefer to just lynch the towniest players in order
town won micro 604 but in that game ozymandias fit into the category you're describing- town won because snarkysnowman made himself fairly obvious with his l-1 on ozzy- callforjudgement
-
callforjudgement Microprocessor
- callforjudgement
- Microprocessor
- Microprocessor
- Posts: 3972
- Joined: September 1, 2011
Right, just because the strategy worked once doesn't actually mean that it's good; maybe we just got lucky.
Incidentally, I'm interested that you chose to comment on the strategy part of my post, but not attempt to scumhunt me from it. I know it's early, but is there a reason you didn't react to the rest of the post / attempt to scumhunt me from it?scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- MarioManiac4
-
MarioManiac4 Jack of All Trades
- MarioManiac4
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9179
- Joined: May 1, 2015
- Carcalilly
-
Carcalilly She/HerMafia Scum
- Carcalilly
She/Her- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3579
- Joined: August 15, 2015
- Pronoun: She/Her
- callforjudgement
-
callforjudgement Microprocessor
- callforjudgement
- Microprocessor
- Microprocessor
- Posts: 3972
- Joined: September 1, 2011
@Carcalilly: It starts automatically after 6 confirmations, according to the role PMs.
Did you not read your role PM? If not, do; it's very important that you understand what votes mean in this setup and what your win condition is. (At least partly because if you're playing against wincon due to not reading it, it's going to be very hard to figure out your alignment.)scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- Carcalilly
-
Carcalilly She/HerMafia Scum
- Carcalilly
She/Her- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3579
- Joined: August 15, 2015
- Pronoun: She/Her
- callforjudgement
-
callforjudgement Microprocessor
- callforjudgement
- cd
-
cd
- Carcalilly
-
Carcalilly She/HerMafia Scum
- Carcalilly
She/Her- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3579
- Joined: August 15, 2015
- Pronoun: She/Her
- GuiltyLion
-
GuiltyLion he/himSurvivor
- GuiltyLion
he/him- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 13829
- Joined: August 19, 2015
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: Seattle, WA
What was your reason for saying this?In post 10, callforjudgement wrote:Normally at this point I'd put a vote out on the player I thought was the best lynch for the day, but nobody's posted anything but confirmations and I'm not experienced with enough of the playerlist to know which players would be easiest to read. I'm not capable of scumhunting off confirmation posts, like mastina is. So I'll hold my vote for the moment.
I don't like the idea of lynching "null-town" players. Usually when I get snowed by scum it's because they're in that null-town zone where they seem townIn post 10, callforjudgement wrote:I'd be very interested in what other people think of a) the strategy of the game, b) people's alignments, though. (Just because this game is mostly about townhunting, that isn't a reason not to scumhunt! Scum can't take much advantage from knowing people's reads because they don't have a nightkill, and because nearly all the Mafia games on this site are about scumhunting, scumhunting will make you easier to read.enoughbut not quite at the level of my hardest townreads. Also, I was thinking in this setup that scum may be likely to read eachother as null town - giving themselves room to vote eachother if needed. So allowing people to vote a wagon because of a "i'm not sure they're town, but they're probably town" type read would give scum an excuse to vote a buddy. IMO your vote should always be on your strongest townread and any switch to another wagon should be justified."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Carcalilly
-
Carcalilly She/HerMafia Scum
- Carcalilly
She/Her- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3579
- Joined: August 15, 2015
- Pronoun: She/Her
- callforjudgement
-
callforjudgement Microprocessor
- callforjudgement
- Microprocessor
- Microprocessor
- Posts: 3972
- Joined: September 1, 2011
I'm consistently very much a believer that players should have a vote out at all times (unless theory considerations say to hold the vote), and typically plead with people to vote to make themselves easier to read. However, there wasn't anyone townish enough to vote for. I mentioned that because I have a kind of "mental checklist" to go through in my first posts in the game to make sure I don't leave out anything that I want to say, and that was ticking it off. In retrospect, that possibly isn't the ideal strategy.In post 20, GuiltyLion wrote:
What was your reason for saying this?In post 10, callforjudgement wrote:Normally at this point I'd put a vote out on the player I thought was the best lynch for the day, but nobody's posted anything but confirmations and I'm not experienced with enough of the playerlist to know which players would be easiest to read. I'm not capable of scumhunting off confirmation posts, like mastina is. So I'll hold my vote for the moment.
VOTE: GuiltyLion
I've got enough information to place a vote now, though. It's a very weak vote because we're very early, but you're the first player who seems to be making some effort to sort players.
For what it's worth, I'm happy with the strategy of lynching, ideally, only strong town reads. It means that we can leave the harder decisions until later, when we have more information.
PEDIT: @Carcalilly: This is not a setup where scummy people should be lynched. (The setup's name is Vote For Town Mafia for a reason.)scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town - callforjudgement
- Carcalilly
- GuiltyLion
- Carcalilly
- Carcalilly
- callforjudgement
- Carcalilly
- MarioManiac4
- callforjudgement
- MarioManiac4
- callforjudgement
- Carcalilly
- A Simple Plan
- GuiltyLion
- pisskop
- pisskop
- pisskop