Micro 744 - Nano-Multiball (Game Over)

Elliberetta · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:37 pm

Luca and I have both wrote posts that detail why you're posts have been shit and both are full of questions
that's the fucking definition of interacting and asking questions

Address them

Human Sequencer · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:48 pm

in this setup scum don't care who they lynch, they're one man armies who would love to lynch townies and would love to lynch the opposing scum even more. they're far more likely to promote wagons as opposed to critically shut them down.

vax wagon was way too easy to be scum, i believe both scum were either on the fence or promoting both vax wagon and my wagon, which is literally everybody else in the game (elli, tywin, luca)
of those players i buy elli's read progression the least, she's good on the vax wagon i guess but is pushing my wagon in a pretty unbelievable way
luca's posts ring like a towny trying to sort the game and figure me out, tywins posts seem kinda the same but more timid and maybe constructed with a little less attention but they still feel genuine. elli's posts are almost comically over the top in a way i find hard to take seriously

elli, ur post is shit. its filled with surface level questions with incredibly easy answers, which makes me feel like you don't actually care about my alignment, and are just looking to gussy me up for a lynch. throwing 310 shitty questions at somebody doesn't make them scum. asking less questions, but asking the right questions, is more important.
if you wanna give it another shot, feel free.
also, needless swearing and slander doesn't make you better at the game, it just makes it shittier for everybody trying to play.

i've been putting off interacting with luca's post, i'll admit

TywinL · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:02 pm

Well, I'll admit that I am being a bit lazy with this game and I'm trying to inject more interest into the game.

Luca Blight · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:26 am

Well, we're edging ever nearer to deadline.

We're lynching either HS or Vax. HS, if you're Town then now's the time to step up and show it.

Elliberetta · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:04 am

Hey let's take a poll.

Was my post on HS full of shitty questions or full of perfectly reasonable inquiries.

Elliberetta · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:08 am

of those players i buy elli's read progression the least, she's good on the vax wagon i guess but is pushing my wagon in a pretty unbelievable way

Yeah, I was totally good on the vax wagon when I was the one trying to see if he could have done his shit with a town mindset. Yupyup.

Also, this might suprise you, but I have two scum I'm looking for.

And pushing your wagon?

SURPRISE I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO POINT OUT YOUR SKETCHY SHIT.

Elliberetta · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:09 am

In post 139, Elliberetta wrote:Of note:
HS's profile and posting history has indicated that they've been online: search.php?author_id=28580&sr=posts

Vax, why is using logic a towntell. Why is being emotional negative.
Furthermore I would argue that Luca and I have been "equivalently logical". He noticed the stuff on you first. I called out Hs on his bullshit first.

Vax, come in here and talk about this please. Thanks.

BTD6_maker · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:10 am

Day 1 VC 4

Human Sequencer: TywinL
Luca Blight: Human Sequencer

Not Voting: Elliberetta, Luca Blight, Vaxkiller

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-09 07:30:00)

At deadline, Human Sequencer would be lynched.

With 5 players, it's 3 to lynch!

TywinL · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:51 am

In post 154, Elliberetta wrote:Hey let's take a poll.

Was my post on HS full of shitty questions or full of perfectly reasonable inquiries.

I was in full agreement, and I also called him out too.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:19 pm

Got sick yesterday and slept for almost 24 hours. Felling better but still wiped. I''l be on tomorrow.

Luca Blight · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:55 am

HS has one day to save himself.

Elliberetta · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:04 pm

I won't be around most of tomorrow by the way so....

Vaxkiller · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:03 pm

In post 156, Elliberetta wrote:
In post 139, Elliberetta wrote:Of note:
HS's profile and posting history has indicated that they've been online: search.php?author_id=28580&sr=posts

Vax, why is using logic a towntell. Why is being emotional negative.
Furthermore I would argue that Luca and I have been "equivalently logical". He noticed the stuff on you first. I called out Hs on his bullshit first.
Vax, come in here and talk about this please. Thanks.

Logically meaning that it makes sense to me, and emotional meaning I don't see alot there besides emotion.

Yeah I know people who make logical sounding arguments can be scum and emotional people can be town, I sometimes have a harder time distinguishing the former. The latter however always seems more obvious to me.

I'm going to vote HS and put him at L1 before tonight is up.

Luca Blight · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:39 pm

Vote: HS

L-1

Vaxkiller · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:05 am

In post 162, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm going to vote HS and put him at L1 before tonight is up.

Forgot about this.

VOTE: HS

BTD6_maker · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:11 am

Day 1 VC 5

Human Sequencer: TywinL, Luca Blight, Vaxkiller -

LYNCH

Luca Blight: Human Sequencer

Not Voting: Elliberetta

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-09 07:30:00)

With 5 players, it's 3 to lynch!

BTD6_maker · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:15 am

Human Sequencer was lynched!

Spoiler: Human Sequencer's Role PM

Night 1 begins! You have (expired on 2017-10-10 13:15:00) to submit any Night actions.

BTD6_maker · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:28 am

Vaxkiller was killed!

Spoiler: Vaxkiller's Role PM

Day 2 has started!

BTD6_maker · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:29 am

Day 2 VC 1

Not Voting: Luca Blight, TywinL, Elliberetta

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-17 16:30:00)

With 3 players, it's 2 to lynch!

Luca Blight · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:35 am

Well I caught scum, but he somehow managed to wriggle out of being lynched (thanks, HS).

Obviously Vax targeted a Townie who he thought was scum. This will be the first line of investigation for today.

Elliberetta · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:25 am

So I'm not sure right now.

I'm going to stream of consciousness some viewpoints.

Vax shot Tywin (likely given reads in thread) => Luca scum
Vax shot me (likely given reads in thread) => Luca or Tywin could be scum
Vax shot Luca (very unlikely given reads in thread) => Tywin scum
I also don't think Vax was sophisticated enough to be faking his reads in thread given the fact that he did have some motivation to scumhunt.

Which isn't THAT helpful except from a probabilistic standpoint where it makes it Luca is more likely than Tywin.

However I see less dislike Luca then from Tywin on a purely reads in thread basis.

Now here is what I thought was the key to the settup. Scum have motivation to scumhuntm BUT they only have to find one other scum not two. So if we find someone content with only finding one person we're done! Unfortunately the person who did that the most was HS tt.

Maybe one indication for you two of the above I could find was Luca's relatively early vote on Vax where he put him to L-1. Luca, were you okay with him just dying there? The problem is here is you quickly were like "okay, actually we'll unvote and think more" so the picture in my head is that you just got excited at catching him and then calmed down which isn't scummy at all.

Meanwhile Tywin you've been relatively passive. By this I mean the majority of the work on HS and Vax were done by Luca and me. I don't think thats an inherently scummy thing either though? Because honestly we did some pretty good work and I would have just sheeped it too if I didn't do it lolol. However I guess the general bigger problem if any is that you seemed pretty content with just chilling. Like I thought it was HS + Vax too but I had more general paranoia about them (especially the latter) than I feel like you displayed.

I guess right now postswise I lean Tywin. But kill analysis probability wise I lean Luca.
Which leads to me being stuck atm.

TywinL · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:13 am

I'm just gonna ramble on here.

My passiveness is due to the laziness of this game. I have said this earlier as well. Now that we are in Lylo, things are a bit more interesting. Honestly, I was ready to lynch Vax today but seeing he flipped scum and my two strong town reads are still here which means one of them is scum, which is not what I want.

So yesterday I was liking Luca more, no reason why in particular, he seemed more towny than Elli. But I am not a huge fan of Luca's intro post into today, it seems like he's trying to claim credit over Vax being scum, whereas I also thought Vax was scum too.

Now I am thinking from Vax's POV. I am a Werewolf and I have to kill somebody. He could have easily shot either me or Elli and I don't think he shot Luca because it was a strong town read of his. So honestly I am leaning towards Elli here.

Elliberetta · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:23 am

He could have easily shot either me or Elli and I don't think he shot Luca because it was a strong town read of his. So honestly I am leaning towards Elli here.

Wait wait hold on.
From your pov if you were town it should be:

If he shot Elli, Elli's town.
If he shot me (Tywin) it means nothing for Elli or Luca's alignments.
If he shot Luca, Lucas' town.

Right?

This seems really sketchy.
Because if you're scum you know he shot me or Luca.
And that he thought Luca was town so he likely shot me.
Like it seems like you may have considered you getting shot less becauause you knew it didn't happen?

And if you were town your scumlean should be probabilisticly towards Luca using shot logic.

On the other hand I can see that Luca's been online.
What do you think.

Luca Blight · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:31 am

Yes I've been online from time to time but I'm actually on holiday at the moment, which is why I'm finding it hard to find time to play properly.

I should have a bit of time in a couple of hours so will post again then.

Luca Blight · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:09 am

In post 171, TywinL wrote: So yesterday I was liking Luca more, no reason why in particular, he seemed more towny than Elli. But I am not a huge fan of Luca's intro post into today, it seems like he's trying to claim credit over Vax being scum, whereas I also thought Vax was scum too.

While you may dislike missing out on the credit due to you, are you really saying that claiming credit myself is something alignment-indicative in this setup?

It was more annoyance at him wriggling through my grasp than claiming credit though, to be fair.