In post 1275, A Simple Plan wrote:
In post 1273, northsidegal wrote: In post 1270, A Simple Plan wrote:Okay. Looking back, I seem to have confused some stuff- Alisae's vote was locked ON Sakura, it was not Sakura's vote that was locked. This changes a lot WRT Alisae. Just found it odd that e insisted we avoid a NL, and yet didn't make any votes to push for a lynch as we got closer to deadline.
i'm not sure i believe this. you said that one of the main reasons we didn't have a lynch day one was alisae - it doesn't seem to me like whether or not alisae had a vote would make a difference when it comes to this. presumably what alisae said would be far more important than just the action of placing a vote, hence why a playstyle like not mafia's is less influential than someone more verbose's. like, the fact that alisae couldn't vote shouldn't change your assertion that e was one of the main reasons we didn't have a lynch - just the simple act of voting shouldn't be so influential. if we follow your logic then you
should
be saying that not mafia was the main reason we didn't have a lynch yesterday, for not showing up to hammer.
even more, you didn't answer my question. even if we take it that alisae was not the
main reason
that a no lynch happened yesterday, presumably you're still making the point that e had the goal of a no lynch in mind. the thing is, that still doesn't make sense. again, why would alisae as scum attempt to stop the lynch or try to prevent it, if we take it that you're town and alisae is scum?
Alisae didn't have a vote. I thought e did. E was around after I reached L1 and didn't hammer. I was making the argument that e was giving scum a free NK without any info to town (because who has associative data with Penguin?) when my lynch would've said something about NM, about Maru, and to a lesser extent about SS, Alisae, and NSG. But because I didn't realize e had no vote, any case pushed is invalid. I can't make this argument about NM because NM wasn't around between L-1 and deadline to my knowledge.
i'm still not sure i believe you here. if the point you were making when you said that this:
In post 1246, A Simple Plan wrote:Although tbf, I'm gonna have to reread all of d2 so far.
Just feel like one of the main reasons we didn't have any lynch D1 was Alisae, coupled with the suvrivalism > town of NSG.
I honestly had to ISO the mod to make sure the new guy wasn't replacing me, because I've been way too checked out the past few days.
was that it was alisae's not voting that caused the no lynch, i feel like you would have just said that explicitly. like, if you saw that alisae was clearly online, in-thread and posting when it was l-1 and the timer was running down and saw that e didn't hammer, why didn't you question eir on that? like, where was the "hey alisae, why didn't you hammer yesterday? also i'm going to scumread you for not doing that". as it is it seems to me like you're changing your story as issues pop up.
okay, so when you say "any case pushed is invalid", i presume that you're abandoning your point that alisae was deliberately attempting to get a no-lynch. is that correct?
