Micro 753: Votefuckery (Game Over)

[Alisae]

You too North

[Not_Mafia]

lulz

[Not_Mafia]

Congrats Alisae and RC

[northsidegal]

thanks! i'm happy with my play day one getting out of that bad position but looking back i don't feel like i considered enough day two. like, i wrote off you and ss being town vs town and just left myself the pool of rc, not mafia and asp. i guess some of that is the difficulty of reading not mafia and asp's lurker slot, but still.

[Sobolev Space]

aww thanks alisae i'll try but i tend to stick to one game at a time

[Sobolev Space]

congrats to rc too

[Alisae]

Me and RC could have easily ended the game yesterday but like
RC was like
"But you could brag about bussing me"
and I decided to go with that.

[RadiantCowbells]

and sakura

everything I said about Alisae's meta is accurate to the best of my knowledge. I have in recent times had an 100% success rate reading him and I've never had an investment in a misread on him.
If you were considering my push on him scummy that's entirely NAI because that was a legitimate effort by me to put wording to something that's difficult to put wording too.
And it's frankly insulting to me when you say that you're going to speedvote me for any AtE and yet Alisae is sitting there ateing up a storm and you're lapping it all up and then when I'm legitimately frustrated it's a quickvote on me.
If this is your approach to my slots in future games I would prefer to not play with you in the future. I wanted to vote you and check out of lylo at three different points I was so mad at you, and I would have done so if I was town.
If you think anything with regards to how you approached me worked when you only managed to help alisae bus me because I didn't want to play with you anymore, think again.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like especially the bit about Alisae putting on a show as scum versus genuine as town and how to see it is FA level giving away someone else's meta to the point I regretted saying it, and you shit on it.

[Alisae]

I believe I allcaps and AtE as town too tho...

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm really glad I was in a position to throw my slot and still win because I would have likely been stuck deciding whether to yell at you or replace out in any other conditions.

I made do with pretending I was mad at Alisae instead.

I believe I allcaps and AtE as town too tho...

It's different.

[Sakura Hana]

Good NK, i was gonna hard push Ali on the last day.
Well no regrets, this game had no balance anyway.
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Nah i was gonna push ASP

[Alisae]

tbh
you're kinda right
its different
but I don't think my alignment had anything to do with the AtE because I don't think I really had it in mind when I was bussing you.

But you are right
it is different I did feel like this was kinda a bit more dramatic lmfao

[PenguinPower]

Why was I killed N1? Like...that was the first time that's ever happened.

[Alisae]

Low Info Kill

[Alisae]

Basicly to waste people's time
it was either you or nm
also we didn't know your role and we wanted to kill a role we didn't know.

[PenguinPower]

also we didn't know your role

You should have?

[Alisae]

Did you claim D1?
lmfao I might have missed it tbh

[Cheetory6]

Did town have any useful power? Lmfao

[Alisae]

Its a game based on voting lmfao.
So no.
Probably not.

[Sobolev Space]

will scum pt be opened?

[Alisae]

I hope so

[Maruchan]

And mod PT. I wanna see the real roles and not all this gambity crap.


Also i saw four people distinctly mention Discordb and mention attempting to reach mod through it / reference discussions about the game through it / appear to fully discuss a nightkill without a single on-site bit of conversation through it.


Mod shouldn't be talking about the game to a non-player individual if trying to make them play especially off site. RC expressed he wouldn't have wanted my slot but something the mod said convinced him. Meaning the mod influenced his perception of the game.
Scumteam should not discuss the kill and who will make it outside of the scum PT.
Nobody should be contacting the mod outside of an on-site PM, and through the thread. Timing is as much an aspect of both town and mafia plays and gambits as the actual content of gambit. Players being able to have closer discussions with the mod then other players distinctly tips the balance of the game in their favor, alignment irrelevant.

Rule 6 and 1 coincide to specifically prohibit the use of discord in this game particularly, site rules dont prohibit it (but its sorry grey area), but rule 6 in game should.


@everyone criticizing the mod during the game for perceived balance issues based on perceived roles and alignments: y'all are dicks. Ypu know at least one person is lying and it could be anyone. All vote stealing power was in town hands, and no information giving roles were included (it appears)to either alignment. Most useful roles were non-subsequent helping to nerd them pretty well.


Also NM is right that that's my play regardless of alignment, and i would have pushed just as hard on him as town, if not harder.

Also I am sorry i couldn't devote as much time to this as i wished i could. I hated replacing out but i really wasn't able to play to my standard

[Sakura Hana]

everyone criticizing the mod during the game for perceived balance issues based on perceived roles and alignments: y'all are dicks. Ypu know at least one person is lying and it could be anyone. All vote stealing power was in town hands, and no information giving roles were included (it appears)to either alignment. Most useful roles were non-subsequent helping to nerd them pretty well.

Lol, even the mod told me it was a troll setup, so i dont really care about the balance or the loss.

And so the final chapter in the book of Sakura Hana ends...
To be continued... maybe sometime in the far future.

[Alisae]

RC and the GiF convo was a lie lmfao.
Also this

Nobody should be contacting the mod outside of an on-site PM, and through the thread. Timing is as much an aspect of both town and mafia plays and gambits as the actual content of gambit. Players being able to have closer discussions with the mod then other players distinctly tips the balance of the game in their favor, alignment irrelevant.

Is an oldschool view, but hey that's ok.
I had to kinda message GiF to tell him the game ended when it ended right away so...