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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:03 pm

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Whelp that was a thing.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:14 pm

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all the links are now there
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:17 pm

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Fun game.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:21 pm

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Ambitious idea.

I think it needs another trial run - w/ the no deadlines mechanic - to see if that is what caused this to flop or not.

It was a lot shorter than I was expecting it to be.

LyLo obviously presented a problem for the town. Ell could switch between her puppet accounts before town had a chance to react and then push the ML through, ensuring her win. This might be something that needs to be addressed in the future.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:21 pm

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town was outclassed, yeah

the setup was balanced but lack of meta really fucks things up

and ellibereth never slipped hard enough for the "one guy running 2 accounts" thing to become a liability

i think this could be run as a mini, or even an open, with different mechanics/setup

replacements should definitely be an option imo
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:22 pm

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In post 379, Mathdino wrote:replacements should definitely be an option imo
Agreed.

Maybe have reserve replacements? Like... people who've created a hidden alt and secretly signed up via PM that the Mod can pull from if needed.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:22 pm

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having to say village and wolf was painful
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:23 pm

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RC and drealmerz ruined my motivation.

Also Ellibereth lurking out completely on one account was a shitty tactic and an abuse of the mechanic.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:23 pm

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I still maintain that this concept is ridiculously town favored assuming they don't lurk.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:23 pm

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In post 382, Something_Smart wrote:RC and drealmerz ruined my motivation.

Also Ellibereth lurking out completely on one account was a shitty tactic and an abuse of the mechanic.
eh
i think even the mod would disagree with you on that one so
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:23 pm

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In post 378, AnonymousGhost wrote:Ambitious idea.

I think it needs another trial run - w/ the no deadlines mechanic - to see if that is what caused this to flop or not.

It was a lot shorter than I was expecting it to be.

LyLo obviously presented a problem for the town. Ell could switch between her puppet accounts before town had a chance to react and then push the ML through, ensuring her win. This might be something that needs to be addressed in the future.
no deadlines wasn't the issue, town can do just fine without deadlines
no force replacements was the major problem
people actually posting would likely have won it

also the issue you raise with lylo is exactly the same with 2 scum with daytalk organising a quickhammer

so i guess you could say that if someone who isn't shit at scheming was in control of the accounts, that's effectively a buff on par with mafia daytalk

so in that sense you could say this was slightly scumsided?
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:24 pm

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Anyone who gets prodded too many times should be modkilled.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:24 pm

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the problem with canvassing for interest in a second setup is that it's revealing as to who the people behind the alts are.

i still think this idea had promise – certainly i messed it up this time, but i think the best plan would be to leave it for a while and come back to it sometime later.

in the future i will make some allowance for replacements so that any unfortunate situations that pop up can be dealt with.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:26 pm

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In post 380, AnonymousGhost wrote:aybe have reserve replacements? Like... people who've created a hidden alt and secretly signed up via PM that the Mod can pull from if needed.
the issue here is if you replace one scum, you have to replace the entire scumteam, and that's basically gg for the scumteam
so one person replacing out publicly basically confirms them as town
replacements would definitely have to be secret, and the mod would have to have the credentials for all the accounts
In post 381, LakeoftheWoods wrote:having to say village and wolf was painful
this was pretty solid, i guessed basically every MU/MS player for your identity :lol:
settled on alisae, or just mulch being good at being an alt
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In post 382, Something_Smart wrote:RC and drealmerz ruined my motivation.

Also Ellibereth lurking out completely on one account was a shitty tactic and an abuse of the mechanic.
eh
i think even the mod would disagree with you on that one so
disagree with both of you
the fact that lurking out was allowed as a mechanic was itself the issue
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:26 pm

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In post 385, Mathdino wrote:no deadlines wasn't the issue, town can do just fine without deadlines
no force replacements was the major problem
Agreed on the first, now that I think about it.
Strong yes on the second.

Apathy was a thing that hampered this IIRC.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:27 pm

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I mean yeah I agree

but once its allowed I'm doing it, especially if there are town lurking too.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 388, Mathdino wrote:the issue here is if you replace one scum, you have to replace the entire scumteam, and that's basically gg for the scumteam
so one person replacing out publicly basically confirms them as town
replacements would definitely have to be secret, and the mod would have to have the credentials for all the accounts
Alternatively... and I can't believe I'm suggesting this awful idea... you could create a time rift between the scum replacements.

...

That's horrible. Forget I said anything.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:28 pm

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In post 390, LakeoftheWoods wrote:I mean yeah I agree

but once its allowed I'm doing it, especially if there are town lurking too.
yeah this was basically optimal play at that point

don't hate the player hate the game

fantastic concept but needs a lot of tweaking
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:31 pm

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also if anyone were tracking accounts i should have just lost

i fucked up and muscle memoried both lake and rodin to hidden for a solid day and then turned lake's back to being active to try and fuck math's account over and prayed noone else checks this shit.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:32 pm

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Good job elli
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:32 pm

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this account started as a homage to you
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:34 pm

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yeah i solidly thought that was mulch pulling a wrangle
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:35 pm

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rodin was intended to be davesaz before i decided to just lurk it
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:35 pm

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In post 388, Mathdino wrote:the fact that lurking out was allowed as a mechanic was itself the issue
True.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:36 pm

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In post 246, Rodin wrote:I
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contribute today. I did not forsee certain circumstance when signing up for this that I probably should have but I will finish this commitment.
davesaz the "i never lie about real life" guy?
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