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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:57 am

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In post 574, Gamma Emerald wrote:But they still feel forced :/
Maybe! But my point is that's not alignment indicative, just indicative of his jokes not being particularly good-quality. (Not that I even think they're particularly bad)
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:57 am

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In post 536, Not_Mafia wrote:Yup, nothing's changed on that front
Why not vote me if nothing about me got scummier and nothing else got townier? If I'm wrong with this tell me how.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:58 am

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i can't ignore a read just because of the setup, and the counter to what mathdino is saying holds perfectly true for me. if "why would scum mathdino try to lynch nsg" is a point you're going to make, how can you ignore "why would scum nsg try to lynch mathdino"?
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:58 am

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In post 568, Gamma Emerald wrote: I skimmed this but I got the "NSG's push on you doesn't make sense given meta plus game theory for this setup". I agree quite a bit.
VOTE: NSG
Since I might actually have ended up on a vanity wagon when trying to wagon my scumread
how can you possible agree that my push on him doesn't make sense when by your own admission you haven't been reading it?
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:59 am

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and am i the "scumread" that you refer to? i don't even think you've mentioned me before this.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:03 am

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In post 575, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 574, Gamma Emerald wrote:But they still feel forced :/
Maybe! But my point is that's not alignment indicative, just indicative of his jokes not being particularly good-quality. (Not that I even think they're particularly bad)
w/e
what about the otther pouints
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:04 am

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In post 578, northsidegal wrote:
In post 568, Gamma Emerald wrote: I skimmed this but I got the "NSG's push on you doesn't make sense given meta plus game theory for this setup". I agree quite a bit.
VOTE: NSG
Since I might actually have ended up on a vanity wagon when trying to wagon my scumread
how can you possible agree that my push on him doesn't make sense when by your own admission you haven't been reading it?
I said I skimmed, nice misrep
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:06 am

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In post 581, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 578, northsidegal wrote:
In post 568, Gamma Emerald wrote: I skimmed this but I got the "NSG's push on you doesn't make sense given meta plus game theory for this setup". I agree quite a bit.
VOTE: NSG
Since I might actually have ended up on a vanity wagon when trying to wagon my scumread
how can you possible agree that my push on him doesn't make sense when by your own admission you haven't been reading it?
I said I skimmed, nice misrep
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okay, please answer my question as if i had said "hadn't been reading it closely".
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:10 am

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In post 580, Gamma Emerald wrote:w/e
what about the otther pouints
The only post you addressed in that was not a joke was . I don't see why that looks like a fake excuse for a read rather than a real read (and I really don't understand what you mean by "giving a read for the sake of giving a read", because isn't sharing their thoughts something townies should do for its own sake?), and I also disagree with the implicit assumption that scum care less about pushing their reads than town, especially since town can have varying strengths of scumreads not all of which are strong enough to warrant a vote.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:11 am

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In post 553, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 522, CheekyTeeky wrote:Well he promised us a vote and he lied. Lynch all liars right?
Sorry - I fell asleep.
In post 534, Not_Mafia wrote:And Penguin previously prevaricated pertaining to my posts, saying I had 12 when I had 11, I thought it was my 13th posts but I had been duped
You weren't duped by me. You had 12 posts when I said you did - ISO starts with post 0.

I like the Gamma wagon right now.

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Yeah what's your actual read on me, you've never given one
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:12 am

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In post 562, Not_Mafia wrote:Yeah Gamma is scum
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If you'd like to explain why I'm scum for scumreading you in a way that doesn't end up summing up to OMGUS I'd be more than happy to hear it
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:13 am

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In post 582, northsidegal wrote:
In post 581, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 578, northsidegal wrote:
In post 568, Gamma Emerald wrote: I skimmed this but I got the "NSG's push on you doesn't make sense given meta plus game theory for this setup". I agree quite a bit.
VOTE: NSG
Since I might actually have ended up on a vanity wagon when trying to wagon my scumread
how can you possible agree that my push on him doesn't make sense when by your own admission you haven't been reading it?
I said I skimmed, nice misrep
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okay, please answer my question as if i had said "hadn't been reading it closely".
I saw the parts I needed to to put together that logic and I agreed.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:14 am

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And you assumed that someone doing something that didn't make sense was scum?
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:15 am

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could you explain how it doesn't make sense to you?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:15 am

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Me or Gamma?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:16 am

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In post 583, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 580, Gamma Emerald wrote:w/e
what about the otther pouints
The only post you addressed in that was not a joke was . I don't see why that looks like a fake excuse for a read rather than a real read (and I really don't understand what you mean by "giving a read for the sake of giving a read", because isn't sharing their thoughts something townies should do for its own sake?), and I also disagree with the implicit assumption that scum care less about pushing their reads than town, especially since town can have varying strengths of scumreads not all of which are strong enough to warrant a vote.
I guess thinking about it that first part doesn't make sense cos town wouldn't care about giving full reads as much as scum but the second part still stands, I feel like since that's the only read he gave at that point it's the only one he'd have to really follow, so why didn't he vote me sooner?
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:17 am

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In post 589, Something_Smart wrote:Me or Gamma?
gamma, although your answer would still be relevant.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:17 am

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In post 588, northsidegal wrote:could you explain how it doesn't make sense to you?
It's as Math said; if he believes he can read you why would he want you out of the game d1, where if you lose he can't keep you around to read in future games?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:18 am

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Not_Mafia clearly has more going on in his head than he cares to share with the class. It's not as if nothing happened between and his vote to inform any of his reads.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:19 am

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In post 592, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 588, northsidegal wrote:could you explain how it doesn't make sense to you?
It's as Math said; if he believes he can read you why would he want you out of the game d1, where if you lose he can't keep you around to read in future games?
why would
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:21 am

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I don't think Math's logic is right. He would have to be playing an extremely self-assured scumgame to be planning for the future in addition to trying to win this game, and since there are apparently several people here who know his scumgame I'd think that as scum he would prioritize winning this game (since he'd HAVE to do that to not be eliminated) over anything else in the later games.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:22 am

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Even if that's not true, I believe that nsg could have believed it when she voted, which would mean that at least, her vote DID make sense.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:22 am

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In post 594, northsidegal wrote:
In post 592, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 588, northsidegal wrote:could you explain how it doesn't make sense to you?
It's as Math said; if he believes he can read you why would he want you out of the game d1, where if you lose he can't keep you around to read in future games?
why would
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Because you respect his town play and would be rather concerned if he were town? And what do you think you know about his scumgame?
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:31 am

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In post 597, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because you respect his town play and would be rather concerned if he were town? And what do you think you know about his scumgame?
First of all, the exact same thing applies with regards to mathdino towards me. what's more, what you're describing as my mentality just doesn't make sense for anyone. your chances of rolling town in future games is always more than your chances of rolling scum, so if you were going to play with future games in mind you would always play towards a future towngame over a future scumgame.

i know that he plays politically and i know that he's worse at real-time interaction (something that i think is visible this game).
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:38 am

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In post 598, northsidegal wrote:
In post 597, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because you respect his town play and would be rather concerned if he were town? And what do you think you know about his scumgame?
First of all, the exact same thing applies with regards to mathdino towards me. what's more, what you're describing as my mentality just doesn't make sense for anyone. your chances of rolling town in future games is always more than your chances of rolling scum, so if you were going to play with future games in mind you would always play towards a future towngame over a future scumgame.

i know that he plays politically and i know that he's worse at real-time interaction (something that i think is visible this game).
Why are you scumreading him for something you know that is just a thing he does then (being bad at realtime interaction)? And what is playing politically?
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