Micro 794: Miss List II (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

VC 4.0

Not voting (3)- Mathdino, MagnaofIllusion, PantherPunt

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-04-17 15:00:00)

Mod notes:

[Mathdino]

Wow my least ideal lylo

Fucking told you guys I can read him

[MagnaofIllusion]

Glad everyone agreed to a quick night.

I’m ready to shoot so a vote will be appreciated.

[Mathdino]

i assume by that you're literally saying that you're ready to shoot me

[Mathdino]

magna why does mathdino-scum take you to lylo instead of not_mafia

actually just lay out your entire fucking case on me because i don't think you ever once explained the scum indicativeness (or at least what's inconsistent with town me) outside of "mathdino is scum bussing not_mafia"

[Mathdino]

like you're putting me in a position where i basically can't afford to townread you

you literally proposed a plan yesterday that FMPOV, assuming you're town, would've instantly lost us the game

which is now proven by not_mafia flipping town (just as predicted)

so honestly what the fuck reason is there for me to not just lynch you based solely on burden of proficiency

[MagnaofIllusion]

Math I’m going to make this phone response a direct and to the point as I can.

What is the point of all that ranting? You act like we are playing a regular Mafia game. We aren’t. Mislynching me doesn’t lock you a win if you are scum. You have no leverage in that regards. As I said I’m prepared to shoot. Have been for days. So threatening me with a Burden Of Prof lynch is empty. If you think you look obvTown by being a “better than you” avatar since page 1 you really need to take your own advice on self reflection.

FMPOV you have spent this entire game shitting all over me in an attempt to be TownKing which I’ve seen far too often from scum over the years. You may think you are a special snowflake but it’s all old hat to me.

I said yesterday I was willing to bet the game on my reads. And now if Panther agrees with me nothing you can do to stop it. Rant all you like but don’t expect me to fold.

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Mathdino

then vote me and i'm taking the fucking shot

[Mathdino]

If you think you look obvTown by being a “better than you” avatar since page 1 you really need to take your own advice on self reflection.

FMPOV you have spent this entire game shitting all over me in an attempt to be TownKing which I’ve seen far too often from scum over the years. You may think you are a special snowflake but it’s all old hat to me.

this is completely ridiculous

i'm telling you that time and time again your reads have been proven dead fucking wrong yet you still keep 100% confidence in them regardless of what happens to the gamestate

you're absolutely right i've been doing that

because FMPOV it takes ONE BAD TOWNIE to lose this entire game and somehow not_fucking_mafia had reads three times as good as yours despite your shitting all over him

you can't tell me "you think you're a special snowflake" (and fuck off btw) and call me scum in the same sentence

[Mathdino]

like what even has your read on me been

if you think i'm being an asshole trying to control the town and thinking i'm amazing and have the best reads ever

then doesn't that just mean i'm town?

you've done 0 meta on me, you've made 0 effort to actually determine my alignment, you've just held on to a shitty page 2 read based on a bad associative

[MagnaofIllusion]

I’m calling your bluff. Nice try.

VOTE: Mathdino

[Mathdino]

you're either the least valuable town player i've ever seen since RC ruined 3 games simultaneously

or an actually pretty great scum player, and hats off to you

convince me you're not scum here

[Mathdino]

smart's online dude

literally do not have all day

[MagnaofIllusion]

I’d say shoot me but I’m calling grandstanding. Which I do tip my hat to you on ... that takes diligence when you know you’ve lost.

Glad this is over. If Panther played a great game hats off to him. I’ll make sure to avoid seeing you down the line Math. For someone who just knocked Radient you are just like him and not worth having to see in games.

[Mathdino]

you do realise RC ruined those games over awful reads and driving the town over a cliff repeatedly

what the fuck is your problem with me this game

[Something_Smart]

VC FINAL

Mathdino (2)- Mathdino, MagnaofIllusion

(LYNCH)

Not voting (1)- PantherPunt

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-04-17 15:00:00)

Mod notes: [/area]

Mathdino was lynched Day 4. He was a...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

The game will end as soon as Mathdino's vengekill is received, preferably before (expired on 2018-04-05 16:00:00).

[Something_Smart]

Mathdino's choice has been submitted!

Spoiler: Who was it?

PantherPunt,

Vanilla Townie

, was killed!

A win condition has been achieved!

Congratulations to the

Mafia

team of BuJaber, Creature, implosion, and MagnaofIllusion!

[Mathdino]

well done magna

i played dumb or scum and chose dumb, ignoring my usual burden of proficiency tell

shot panther because his ISO had practically 0 mention of the scumteam, only talked about reads on townies

[Mathdino]

also the fact that panther was caving to your plan on D3 read very badly on him

couldn't understand how town would've been okay with that one

[Mathdino]

i'm not really into this setup in practice btw

it just seems to offer very little in the way of reward either way for lynching town vs lynching scum

confirmed scum creature should've broken the game open had N_M and i not gotten played

it's balanced in theory, sure, but that just means it comes down to that 3p lylo 90% of the time

and town either loses to the deepwolf, or lol their way into a win

[Something_Smart]

Scum topic
Dead thread
Mod thread - I did not really keep up with this as it was not necessary:
Night 1 Miss List was {implosion, MagnaofIllusion, Creature, Mathdino, BuJaber}.
Night 2, CultOfAthena was the only sacrifice.
Night 3, nobody sacrificed and Magna blocked Panther and killed Not_Mafia.
Night 4 Miss List was obviously {Math, Magna}.

[BuJaber]

Game is all about this last shot.

Glad it worked. Panther/math at lylo would not have been my choice.

This isn't really mafia is it lol

[Mathdino]

yeah it's really not

anyway what i learned from this game

is that when a supposedly good player that you just met is continually awful throughout the entire game and spouts scumsided advice

you just lynch them for it instead of assuming that they came from a different site meta

[BuJaber]

Like I think it's even higher than 90% chance for it to go to 3p lylo. (Or scum win earlier)

I don't think it needs balancing seems okay. Don't think either alignment has much of an advantage. The communicate with the dead is good but not as game breaking as some might feel.

[Mathdino]

it makes the setup unfun

i mean the other thing we learn here is that when you create a breaking strategy you just follow it

had town followed the strategy they'd have won; this was a distinct case of me going with reads over mechanics

but yeah the majority of the talk was about what the fuck to do at night rather than who to lynch and that just made it not super mafia-esque