Micro 793 Double Investigation I (Endgame)

[BuJaber]

This page is his case against me amd I've responded to those points. I'd really like to know what he meant in 114 because that sounds like he's saying my absence was scummy when everyone knew I was VLA.

[BuJaber]

also congrats on becoming a father! that's awesome

Thank you very much

I think I'll drop to 0-1 games active at any given point of time. It's too much of a hassle keeping up at the moment.

[RedFlavor]

Congratulations

[RedFlavor]

First

P. Edit: ninjaed dammit

VOTE: /vote NSG

who the fuck is in this game

And what the fuck is the setup mechanics

VOTE: mathdino and nsg

Found the scum team

VOTE: mathdino and vijarada

NSG is somehow playing similar to their game in Open 714: Tit for Tat. I think she is town

I'll post one post per page.


Lots of posts on page 1. Twice voting for nsg without committing. I'm trying to teach myself how to look for scum tells in RVS. Why would he vote nsg then change his vote the next post and townread him?

I already explained it, I thought it was math/nsg scumteam but then I realized they know each other and they would be more proactive and try to get mislynches

OK but this isn't lylo so we work with what we've got

Who's scum outside of NSG?

You probably

multiple times he votes for math and all he has is probably? And he townread nsg based on his 'meta' argument earlier why didn't he disagree here with math.

VOTE: vijarada and RF

When I die lynch math and we win

He is playing really differently than his other games, I guess he is scum

This is just a strange post. What other games? What's different? He was clear about the meta read on nsg why the vagueness with math? And the self vote is now clearly a gambit. It confused me when it happened and got me to unvote so it worked and I see the motivation behind it now.

yeah I wasnt really sure cuz it was page 38, there were not much about anything. All I had was when he is town, he usually does something very early but I did not see that in this game.

@mod vijarada and NSG are on prod

Requests a prod on the 2 lurkers but then turns right around and sheeps math's vote on them.

If 2 townies are sure of each other scum cant nightkill them anyways so yeah

BuJaber is town

VOTE: vijarada NSG

If only one of them is scum then I would suggest lynching math with GL

GL was being protownie and bujaber was also kinda like that, that made the scumteam 2 of math, NSG and vijarada. NSG was active sitewide but not in this game, and I know you really post more like walls or be more townie when you are town so I decided you guys are the scumteam, but then I realized if you guys were the scumteam you would probably try more to win and manipulate town so I decided its vijarada with you, you probably had no motivation to play because he is not very active in thread

More scumreading of math / shading him without pushing for his lynch. Always talking about a future lynch of math.

Yeah but I did not knew if both inactives were mafia, and since this is a 6 player setup and I know that I am town, I had 3/5 chance to find a town and if we lynched everyone else (not lynching a town and me) it was a GG at d2 but I mistakenly thought you were the obvious town, so here we are

Because of a 180 would make them dreadfully obvious mafia, I doubt both math and GL would TR both of us if one of them was a mafia

Scum cant win even if this is not the scumteam

This is the plan
If this does not ends we lynch math/GL tomorrow
If it still does not end the IC lynches bujaber

All town needs is 1 obvious villager and its me

I can post my scumgames if you want

VOTE: dino and gl

Yeah I was expecting this

These posts are what told me he's been planning for this lylo. Townreads both GL and Dino to keep his options on who to buddy open. Kills Dino because this is the worse option for me and for the wifom because dino stated he townreads red. I know for a fact dino gets very paranoid about getting pocketed. Red does not want him at lylo. And he was expecting the flip because he's been subtly orchestrating it.

I really dont know what to say about this, I did the townreading you mistake and math knows that Im not even close to my scumrange, I could easily say "Yeah, he killed GL because he wants to think you that I am the killer since you were TR'ing me." if I was scum and killed Guilty lion

[GuiltyLion]

agh I'm going to reread one more time and maybe give one final round of questioning before deciding - don't quite have time to do that yet.

[GuiltyLion]

any chance either of you guys are here? I really could go either way on this one

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 2.1

BuJaber(1) RedFlavor

RedFlavor(1) BuJaber

Not Voting(1) GuiltyLion

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2018-04-07 04:34:22) or when a lynch has been achieved.

[GuiltyLion]

gaaaahhh

I've read this over and over and thought about a lot. I know it doesn't look like I've put much effort in by my posts but I've been trying to be reserved to see what you guys would do (except Weds/Thurs, I was legit super busy those days)

I think I've made my final decision, I'll give it a little bit longer to sit on it and see if it feels right. But definitely a hammer coming in the next 30-60 min or so

[GuiltyLion]

alright well I deeply apologize to both Red and MathDino if this is wrong - I wish I could have engaged a bit more this last LYLO day phase and the game kinda suffered from a lack of info on D2 due in part to my yolohammer. If this is a loss, blame is on me.
VOTE: RedFlavor

I have to head out now so I can explain a lot more about what I was thinking post game.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 2.2

BuJaber(1) RedFlavor

RedFlavor(2) BuJaber, GuiltyLion

Day 3 ends.

Red Flavor,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched.

Endgame reached.
Guilty Lion,

Vanilla Townie

, has been endgamed.

BuJaber,

Mafia Goon

, survived.

Mafia Wins!

[Mathdino]

i'm so salty GL

trust redflavor's hydra partner lol

this was way outside of red's scumrange and perfectly within bujaber's

[Mathdino]

gaaaahhh

I've read this over and over and thought about a lot. I know it doesn't look like I've put much effort in by my posts but I've been trying to be reserved to see what you guys would do (except Weds/Thurs, I was legit super busy those days)

I think I've made my final decision, I'll give it a little bit longer to sit on it and see if it feels right. But definitely a hammer coming in the next 30-60 min or so

cardinal rule of lylo my friend

literally nothing they said in lylo is readable material

both of them were "wrong" about their reads

redflavor-scum doesn't go and bus his partner and take his scumread with him to 3p lylo with someone he was locktownreading the entire game

[Mathdino]

also redflavor never ever ever kills me in this scenario while bujaber would be outright afraid of me

[Mulch]

I thought it was redflavor

lolmulch

[northsidegal]

yay, go bujaber! thanks for the carry

honestly did forget about this game day one but when i checked the thread i was already hammered so

[BuJaber]

Yeah several things I should make clear

Nsg showed up too late.. played the whole game myself

I absolutely genuinenly thought I already lost when I voted nsg. I accepted defeat. Had I understood the setup better I may have played D1 differently.

I 'shot' math but really it was a random shot. I forgot I needed to submit an action while I was on VLA. I came back to find the night already over. To be honest I don't know who I would have picked if I actually thought about it. Would have been a very tough choice.

[Scummies]

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