In post 719, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok since y'all can't agree I don't want to be present at Lylo unless everyone agrees Im town today. If you can't agree to that then I would like to be lynched today and for NM to be left alone tomorrow. We are mislynches scum have kept around. And I know the push on NM today is coming from scum. If NM and I are town then that means there's two scum in Lycan, Ali, Dunn, CES from my pov. CES needs to show up and give his two cents. If Ali is town Idk why she's not scum reading Dunn for the push on her or Lycan for the shitty mislynches he's pushed through open wolfing.
Anyway I'm happy to help you all lynch me today just tell me if you can't town read me and you better have a good idea of who is scum.
I’m scumreading Dunn I don’t know what you’re talking about?
If I had to guess, I'd say Alisae (#644 is pretty bad given his iffy Pinehammer)) and Not_Mafia but it also feels like we should just have this game on lockdown as long as we don't do anything silly? You're town; Katya's town, so we just lynch {Alisae, Not_Mafia, CheekyTeeky} and win the game.
I'll have a reread tonight because I'd rather finish things Today and avoid LyLo all together but I doubt my reads will change substantially.
Dude I hammered because it was deadline and we needed a flip. That’s like, all.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
I've been getting that a lot fairly recently!
tbh I don't have fun when I play this game anymore cause I AtE and shit and become RC and stuff and I don't know what to do about it?
Like I've been thinking of just stop playing but I can never actually get myself to stop. But I've been getting back into YGO so maybe its possible?
/shrug
I just know I don't enjoy mafia anymore and because I don't enjoy it and I'm not having fun I must be doing something wrong.
In post 719, CheekyTeeky wrote:If Ali is town Idk why she's not scum reading Dunn for the push on her
And this isn't an out of context quote, to my knowledge, just snipped.
Here are some quotes from the thread:
And so my question to you is what is causing this difference in viewpoints
I'm finding it hard to believe that 719 is coming from a place of good faith when I look at this, at best it shows you've put no effort into reading the game
In post 514, Alisae wrote:Hey Dunnstral?
Why are you scumreading my slot?
In post 407, Dunnstral wrote:I think Plotinus is scum here and they're not really engaging with the game and I don't see why he can't choose scum.
VOTE: Pine VOTE: Plotinus
They're not really engaging...
HE IS LITERALLY FUCKING DIEING AND FEELING GOD FUCKING AWFUL DUNNSTRAL
I AM LITERALLY PLAYING THE GAME BECAUSE OF THIS
AND THE BEST YOU'VE COME UP WITH IS "THEY'RE NOT REALLY ENGAGING"
Like, have you even tried to read any of his posts and try to analyze them or read into anything I told Plot or like any of the content we posted.
In fact, has the whole thread even bothed to READ any of Plot's posts?
Becuase I am very convinced that no one has made an attempt to read any of Plot's posting.
Like actually fucking READ HIS POSTS.
Not even Pine who is hard TRing us.
^I'll hammer Pine btw if it comes to it^
In post 475, Lycanfire wrote:Unfortunately Dunnstral is a scumfuck regardless of alignment these days and refuses to town up in order to help his scumgame
This doesn't happen
You're actually right btw. You don't even do it to boost your scumgame.
Because you don't have a scumgame.
You don't even have a towngame.
You're actually worse then fucking Not_Mafia because when he actually tries to play games, and yes, he can try in games I've seen him fucking do it, he can have some goodposting.
You're?
I have 1 word to discribe your play here: Useless.
You should retire.
In post 520, Alisae wrote:Ausuka and CES are town, everyone knows that.
Lycan seems really towny to me btw but they are going to hate my reads.
NM Ploti think is town mostly because he thinks he's doing more. I personally think he's lynchbait, but I'll probably look at it more with Ploti and do maps or someshit.
Cheeky can be a wolf, mostly because 492 is a huge red flag. Cheeky doesn't like randing wolf, and she probably didn't bother to follow along with Red's game because it was a wolfgame, and because it was a wolfgame, she was disinterested. She probably left Redflavor alone to just wolf is what I'm basically saying. Like if Redflavor was town, Cheeky would probably have followed along with the game and tried to help Redflavor. Cheeky wasn't reading the game so...
Pine is probably just a wolf who knows I'm town his only defense of my slot is "PLOT WOULD NEVER TAKE A WOLF PM BECAUSE ALI TOOK A TOWN ONE."
Dunnstral is useless, hasn't engaged the game, his reads at an earlier point in time were fucking terrible because he basically had everyone as lynchable, his read on my slot is fucking disgusting, and his unwillingness to compromise when there is literally less then 2 days left in deadline is really fucking scummy.
VOTE: Dunnstral VOTE: Cheeky
A Pine vote would go here but that would be a hammer.
In post 519, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I'm sorry to hear about Plot's health issues and I very much hope he gets better but I don't think anyone here had any idea something like that was going on. I don't think yelling at us is going to help.
Its no worries, he didn't really say anything about it.
I'm just yelling at Dunnstral because he's like, not helpful?
Like he wanted engagement from my slot.
I am giving him engagement.
And we're going to talk.
If Dunn wants to fucking FoS me without saying anything as to why I'm scummy other then lack of engagement and not read my content, then I will fucking dance on his fucking grave because he is REALLY REALLY REALLY fucking scummy.
In post 564, Alisae wrote:I’m asking for a sob story...
Dude...
All I literally gave me was
“He’s not engaging”
And I addressed that concern
And you say this.
You’re a fucking wolf.
In post 535, Dunnstral wrote:Go back and respond to what was addressed to Plotinus
Can you like, repost it. Or quote it. Or do anything?
Or does it not exist because you don’t actually address anything.
In post 534, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ausuka seems to be talking down the possibility of a Plot lynch but with Dunn, her and myself that makes it L-2 with the potential for a lynch there.
That makes it L-1
Alisae subbed in and instead of engaging with the game started hard attacking me on a personal level to try to disengage their wagon
I am engaging in the game!
Just in my own way.
I am trying to engage with you when I asked you “hey, can you tell me why you’re actually scumreading my slot”
BUT NOOOOOOOO YOU GAVE ME NOTHING.
In post 582, Lycanfire wrote:I don't like how you came in just to shade Dunnstral. I wasn't aware of Plotinus' situation. If he said this in the speakeasy, shocker, some people don't want to be a part of it or be up to date with everybodies' lives.
Suggesting we ought to read minds is disingenuous. I want Dunnstral to explain his read, but his criticism of Plotinus was good.
WHAT CRITICISM
What Criticism has he actually posted beyond “He isn’t engaging in the thread” which is terrible from my PoV.
Tell me
Its nothing
It doesn’t exist.
And I probably didn’t miss anything either.
In post 589, Dunnstral wrote:My initial read was based on Plotinus contributions in this game not matching up to what I've seen them do as town in other games, also they were letting pine spew out "plotinus wouldn't pick a scum role pm because alisae was town" and now alisae is saying that the both of them would have given Plotinus the scum pm. Alisae has given me different reasons to scumread them since they've entered
Your first point is meta which I can’t address. Terrible meta at that since, well, its wrong.
Your 2nd point isn’t actually scum indicative. Plot could have let Pine spew it out because hey, they were reading us correctly, so it doesn’t make any sense for us to tell them not to read us correctly?
DIFFERENT REASONS. OH BOY I WONDER WHAT THESE ARE DUNNSTRAL
In post 592, Alisae wrote:Like Dunn is literally trying to explain as little as possible to lynch me.
Its scummy
Lynch him.
In post 589, Dunnstral wrote:My initial read was based on Plotinus contributions in this game not matching up to what I've seen them do as town in other games, also they were letting pine spew out "plotinus wouldn't pick a scum role pm because alisae was town" and now alisae is saying that the both of them would have given Plotinus the scum pm. Alisae has given me different reasons to scumread them since they've entered
How is Plotinus scum if Pine is town?
Case in point.
How many times have you asked this and gotten no response?
In post 499, Dunnstral wrote:I'm definitely not voting Lycan, you're not going to convince me on that because I believe I have a good read on Katyusha, If you're town and Lycan is town then Plotinus is probably scum, no?
But this was the original statement in question.
Here Dunnstral is implying that it could be linked.
Then in 593 “I MEAN, THEY’RE NOT REALLY LINKED IN MY EYES”
Okay, this could be poor word choice from Dunn.
But that is assuming he is town.
He’s not town.
In post 607, Alisae wrote:I’m still waiting for those DIFFERENT REASONS DUNN
D I F F E R E N T
R E A S O N S
I'm leading the lynches today and I'm not considering anything else until this is gone. We can bang our heads against the wall for 2 weeks until someone is forced to vote this, or we can lynch this now.
VOTE: DUNNSTRAL
LETS GO BOYZ
In post 651, Alisae wrote:Dunnstral doesn’t want to talk to me.
Surprise its because he’s a wolf.
Cheeky doesn’t want to talk to me.
And surprise shes a wolf.
NM, I don’t expect you to talk to me, but if you COULD talk to me for once that would be great because like
In post 647, Lycanfire wrote:Okay so Alisae didn't self and we can bother playing the game now.
Are you going to talk to me?
Cause like
No one wants to do that.
How are you rationalizing the votes on you?
What is there to rationalize?
Dunnstral’s concerns I addressed on Plot and he’s said NOTHING to me on why I’m scummy even though I’ve been demanding it.
Cheeky is probably just voting me because she’s a wolf, I’m not seeing the concerns she’s saying about my slot other then “ANGLESHOOTING IS SCUMMY” and that’s not fucking scummy and if she’s trying to discredit that as scummy she’s probably scum herself because its a good angle imo.
In post 658, Alisae wrote:Because as soon as I started going after Dunn, Cheeky was trying to call me out with reasoning that’s extremely scummy.
Like, angleshooting isn’t scummy, if anything thats town indicative imo
In post 684, CheekyTeeky wrote:Go fuck yourselves I'm not in the right mindset to be backed into a corner by scum today. I'll deal with this bs tomorrow.
I think this is quite a bit more likely to come from town than scum
isn’t this exactly what I did?
In post 709, Alisae wrote:Btw Dunn’s entrance today followed by “As much as I want to grudge vote, I owe to to my partner to try to win” is really scummy because it comes across as scum who thought that they could lynch quickly and instead their plans to quicklynch fell apart and has no idea what to do.
Like Dunn’s play this phase in general comes across as having no idea of what to do ever since I showed up.
Not to mention, Dunn thought that all 3 of {Pine, Lycan, NM} were town yesterday and now he’s suddenly willing to lynch NM. Like isn’t that just wierd to anyone else?
Like Dunn has been fencing and posturing on like everyone early D1, like he had literally everyone as lynchable D1.
Then he pushes me and refuses to say anything about why my play was scummy and had all of his arguements refuted on why they were wrong.
Then at the start of the day, he does this shit.
Like am I banging my head against a wall here can we lynch Dunnstral please?
I'm not explaining shit. Im town, I'm sick as shit and trying to make sense atm isn't worth the headache. I'm probably going to be incapacitated for another day or two and I don't see why people are going to realise I'm town at lylo so I don't want to be there.
I'm not replacing out. Just look elsewhere it's not my fault you people scum read me. If you guys can't solve the game in 5p then you should realise how bad your reads are atm.
I didn't ask for a sob story. I'm not losing this game because you came down with a case of the temper tantrums. I'm deciding the lynch, I'm not buying into the rest of what you're selling when you can't back it up and I don't know if you're scum giving up or town.
If you don't want to play the game, you can replace out. I didn't say I scumread you, I said I can't make sense of what you are saying because it is
demonstratively untrue
. You got caught out, I just don't know fi you're scum giving up or town giving up.
I didn't say it was scum AI, I said I wanted to talk with you about it (to sus out your alignment). I'm trying to see where you're coming from when you say that, or what happened
I skim read and obviously messed up. I'm trying to contribute but am doing a poor job of it. I'm mad that Lycan gets to live after leading two major mislynches. I'm annoyed CES gets to live when BoP says he shouldn't. I'm annoyed that I can read Ali. I'm frustrated that Dunn is trying to look reasonable when he doesn't usually care.