In post 49, nonny wrote:Cheesy is your least suspicious but you want to vote for him? Am I reading your list correctly?
No, I think you're reading my list upside down. I believe I mentioned town reading Invisibility and being suspicious of Cheesy, so why did you think Cheesy was my least suspicious?
In post 54, Music Box wrote:@ Oath and Cheesy: Are you suggesting (in
22 and
24), that RC should have put Oath to L-1? And in Oath's
26 that hito should have done it?
@ nonny: In
31 you imply that Cheesy should have done the same. Why would you want a wagon at L-1 at this stage of the game?
In
post #48, I asked a question to you specifically and also whether it's a good idea to put somebody at L-1 in the early game, which seems like something you have an opinion on considering this post, so why didn't you answer my questions?
In post 59, Invisibility wrote:hi people scumreading cheesy is it because he's posting awkwardly and that's scummy?
Yeah, kind of, for me at least. See
post #48
In post 62, Kmd4390 wrote:Komala wrote:
Now that you mention it, that post from Oath does feel kind of off, but I can't put my finger on it, maybe I'll think about it more later. However, why is the lack of an RVS vote scummy?
This just feels awkward. It reads like you found Magnas reasoning good and Oath scummy and show lazy intent to possibly follow up on it but then turn it against magna. Like there's a need to defend Oath even though you took issue with Oath himself.
Oh, does my question look like a rhetorical question? That would explain why Magna didn't answer. It was supposed to be a genuine question though, in order to better understand his reasoning, hoping it might help with reading in some way.
If I remember correctly, it went something like this: I saw Oath's post, thought "Wait, why aren't you voting?", then saw Magna's post who suspected Oath for that, went from "Oh yeah, Magna's right that's weird" to "Wait, but is it the scummy kind of weird? Is there scum motivation to not vote in that post or is that just NAI?" and then decided to ask Magna this. Then, when I was writing this part of my post, I looked at these posts again and did get a bad feeling about Oath's post from gut or tone or something which didn't have much to do with the lack of vote, I believe.
nonny:
I think I took a break from my read list because I had no idea about nonny and thought I needed a break, but now that I take another look, there's still nothing about her posts before my last that stands out to me as towny or scummy. Her new post where she got my read list wrong is kind of weird though. I'm thinking about why she made that mistake, but I'll wait for her own explanation before saying what I think might be possible reasons.
Oath:
Post #10: Yeah, I think it seeming artificial like Magna said in
#27 might have been what I thought felt off about this. Not sure though.
Post #22: Not sure what to think about this one. I like the point on RedCoyote and that she was trying to sort the people on her wagon, but like Magna(?) said there's something contradictory about disliking RVS and then doing nothing to advance it herself and accusing Magna who made the game get out of RVS.
Post #26: Asking hito "Why'd you vote Cheesy over myself?" stands out to me, but I'm not sure if it's towny or scummy. On one hand, I believe that scum pay more attention to how they're being read and who might be voting them why since being townread and not being voted is more of priority for them, so a lot of focus on these things is scummy. On the other hand, this could also be seen as trying to understand hito's thought process to help with reading, and also questioning why hito
doesn't
vote her might suggest being
less
afraid of being voted.
Post #30: The first part I disagree with, but I'm not sure if there's anything alignment indicative about that. "Do scum not buddy town? And vice versa?", though? That looks bad. This was a response to hito scumreading Cheesy for buddying Oath. hito didn't say in the quoted part that Oath was scummy for Cheesy buddying her at all, so where did "Do scum not buddy town?" come from? She's defending herself when it's unnecessary to do so, which seems scummy to me.
Post #34: So what's your read on Cheesy?
Post #40: Well, the playstyle disagreement stuff seems genuine. But... why is there so much focus on self-defense here?
Post #47: That's all you have to say about the second post from RC whom you're currently voting over Magna (see
post #51)? Did it not influence your read on him at all?
Post #51: I like this: "First and foremost, I can give myself more benefit than I give ANYONE else because I know I'm town. That's the only thing I do know right now."
I don't know... there's a focus on self-defense rather than scumhunting which is scummy and what scumhunting there is also seems odd (the reasons for scumreading Magna, nothing about RC's second post), but there are also parts that seem genuine and/or towny, so...
RedCoyote:
Post #18 was odd, but I believe
post #43 explains that. Other than that, the new post is also really good with some good points and questions. It looks like he's genuinely interested in moving the game forward.
Also a brief look on the new posts from the people in my old read list:
I like
#53 from hito.
Invisibility still seems towny, but I hope we get some more content from him soon.
What Kmd (Cheesy's replacement) said about me in
#62 reads like a genuine misunderstanding.
Post
#50 from MoI ... Good questions, I especially like this one "If she really believes my suspicions aren’t founded because I approach the game differently why are her suspicions on me not equally likely to be playstyle disagreements? I’d like everyone to mull that over." Also, I clicked the link to post #48 to see if I could find the scum tell he was referring to, but then I realized it was my own post, so no, I'm not gonna look for a scum tell there xD Interested in MoI's explanation though. For now I like this: "But I need some context from a few others to assess whether I am on to something or not."
Waiting for Music Box to talk to me.
Not really sure about the order of reads...
Invisibility, RC, hito, MoI are town reads. I don't really feel comfortable with Invisibility being the my town read anymore though. But idk who else is. Well, RC should hopefully post again soon and Magna's explanation of what he saw as a scum tell and what he needed from other people to see if he was on to something might also help.
Music Box and nonny are null right now so I hope they answer my questions.
Still suspicious of Cheesy/Kmd, also of Oath and I think I want to vote the latter right now.
VOTE: Oath
L-2
