micro 816-II: pokemon go (open game) (gambe over)

[stungun0404]

you claimed not wanting to look at it,

but you directly attacked a statement from it anyway

that is what scum does

[stungun0404]

easy solve

look at the high variation in the voting of creature, profii, gif, and shoshin. these all as we now know represent town partially confused in searching for scum in this game

aronis made one vote, and was trying to sort players. given he would not vote back, both scum probably voted him early. see both nico (1st) and koki (3rd). since no retaliation to fear, why wouldn’t koki join as scum?

nsg was jailkeeper that thus remained very consistent with her vote because she did not want to make too big of a splash presumably; first 2 days only koki—who she thought was clearly jk hunting.

look at the little variation in nico’s votes, similar to koki
stun —> aronis (same d1 votes for both players)!
d2: nsg
d3: koki —> stun

my votes have varied wildly and as such, looks much more like town sorting to find scum than koki’s voting pattern, when he laid down 2 votes on d1 for his supposed sorting, and one as we know was a town mislynch.

i mean, let me compare from up to d3


Stun
D1
Aronis - Creature - pro - NSG - profii - gif - gif - NSG - Stun - nico - koki - unvote - gif - koki - Creature - Aronis - profii - Creature - profii - Aronis

i had more voting variation d1 than either of gif or profii.

D2
Profii - nico - profii - unvote - Creature - profii - unvote - Creature. - unvote - kokichi - creature
D3
nico

note: this is up to profii’s post, for convenience


Koki
D1
Voted -> Stun -> unvote -> Aronis
D2
Creature -> Profii -> Creature -> Maria -> profii -> Creature
all town on d2, and koki had the nerve to get on me for hopping from town to town wagon. i voted both nico and koki at one point d1, and d2, and nico again on d3.

all of a sudden, d3 nico is scum to koki. hmm, i wonder why?

[stungun0404]

also, koki has been placed 3rd on every lynchwagon. isn’t that a talinder scumtell or something?

[stungun0404]

up until profii this is applicable

d1 final vc

Aronis (5):

NicoRobin, Shoshin,

Kokichi Oma

, profii, stungun0404

profii (2):

Creature, MariaR

Kokichi Oma (1):

northsidegal

not voting (1):

Aronis

with 9 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

d2 final vc

Creature (5):

profii, stungun0404,

Kokichi Oma

, MariaR, Creature

profii (1):

Shoshin

Kokichi Oma (1):

northsidegal

northsidegal (1):

NicoRobin

not voting (0):

with 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch

Spoiler: i noticed this and took a screenshot of it on two separate occasions so im including it again

d3 final vc

NicoRobin (4):

northsidegal, stungun0404,

Kokichi Oma

, MariaR

stungun0404 (2):

profii, NicoRobin

not voting (0):

with 6 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

Vote count 4.another one

profii (3):

profii, stungun0404, northsidegal

not voting (2):

MariaR,

Kokichi Oma

with 5 alive, it took 3 to lynch.

[stungun0404]

also, koki has been placed 3rd on every lynchwagon. isn’t that a talinder scumtell or something?

meh, i cannot remember the name of the scumtell this is, but i know it is one and it is not talinder. it starts with a t though

[Kokichi Oma]

all of a sudden, d3 nico is scum to koki. hmm, i wonder why?

I explained why and I caught her with the meta slip. And you literally said this 20x already and I explained already

[stungun0404]

Spoiler: gnna add something later

Vote count 2.5

profii (3):

Shoshin, MariaR, Kokichi Oma

Kokichi Oma (2):

northsidegal, stungun0404

northsidegal (1):

NicoRobin

NicoRobin (1):

profii

not voting (1):

Creature

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 2 ends august 30 at 14:00 central US time; in (expired on 2018-08-30 14:00:00)

mod notes

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Spoiler: both of them fucking golden berried after i beat them twice

Vote count 3.5

NicoRobin (3):

stungun0404, MariaR, Kokichi Oma

Kokichi Oma (1):

NicoRobin

MariaR (1):

profii

not voting (1):

northsidegal

with 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. day 3 ends september 15th at 17:15 central US time; in (expired on 2018-09-15 18:15:00)

mod notes

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more 3rd votes from koki; they literally take up probably half his votes if not more. why are you joining all these lynchwagons 3rd as town trying to genuinely sort?

[stungun0404]

all of a sudden, d3 nico is scum to koki. hmm, i wonder why?

I explained why and I caught her with the meta slip. And you literally said this 20x already and I explained already

if you “caught” her with said meta slip, tell me why didn’t you vote her immediately after?

and ftr, no i have not repeated this off memory, you are exaggerating big time there with 20 times

[stungun0404]

If you look at my scum games

I get lynched pretty fast almost every time

,

Wait! That's wrong!

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=75571&start=1300

You won pretty easily as scum here and you were townread by mostly everyone. Why lie?

apparently, you “caught”profii here too
what made nico’s lie different?

[stungun0404]

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=76071&activity_overview=1

Caught Nico in a lie. I was waiting for this.

She was town this game. She had one of the most posts in the game and defended herself.

VOTE: nico

convenient your first vote on nico was

102

posts in your iso after “catching” her in the lie

[stungun0404]

aha, and i am seeing what happened now!

you would catch her in a lie all of a sudden as maria and i are on her bandwagon so you have an excuse to hop on if need be

[stungun0404]

*lynchwagon

[Kokichi Oma]

If you look at my scum games

I get lynched pretty fast almost every time

,

Wait! That's wrong!

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=75571&start=1300

You won pretty easily as scum here and you were townread by mostly everyone. Why lie?

apparently, you “caught”profii here too
what made nico’s lie different?

You realize I had nico and profil as my scumreads yes? But thanks for proving my point for me

[Kokichi Oma]

Profil I'm nervous on trying to get a read on. Last time I hard town read him and he was scum.

Also this is why I was hesitant on profil cause I've read him wrong which is why I was more sure on nico.

[Kokichi Oma]

But please, keep making it more obvious I'm town

[stungun0404]

Profil I'm nervous on trying to get a read on. Last time I hard town read him and he was scum.

Also this is why I was hesitant on profil cause I've read him wrong which is why I was more sure on nico.

wouldn’t that same supposed logic explain the entirety of my nico townread that you chose to hold against me in favor of nico plus stun scum associatives? as i am tentative to scumread her having just replaced in for nico townslot i could tell was town; and plus jk circumstances.

yes, i have repeated this particular argument now, but you have never addressed it to be fair.

[stungun0404]

more precisely, i was nervous of wrongly mislynching her

[stungun0404]

that also does not explain why you were hesitant to actually vote nico, notably

[Kokichi Oma]

Profil I'm nervous on trying to get a read on. Last time I hard town read him and he was scum.

Also this is why I was hesitant on profil cause I've read him wrong which is why I was more sure on nico.

wouldn’t that same supposed logic explain the entirety of my nico townread that you chose to hold against me in favor of nico plus stun scum associatives? as i am tentative to scumread her having just replaced in for nico townslot i could tell was town; and plus jk circumstances.

yes, i have repeated this particular argument now, but you have never addressed it to be fair.

Clearly not the same as misreading someone

[stungun0404]

it is misreading someone

i misread her as jk, and misread her as town on meta that was not holistic

[stungun0404]

maria, if only you’d hammer obvscum here once and for all, this game would be over, and so would the relief of both of us for finding the towniness in each other be showcased, and profii and i can laugh and reminisce about how we tunneled on each other so hard at times (particularly how i tunneled on

him

), and creature can be proven wrong for his d2 comment that town WILL lose this game. i’m going to pull a you from d3 and say after all this time and effort,

you don’t

want to end this game incorrectly by lynching town over scum, which would be lynching me, so just go for voting kokichi and this game is in the bag!

and guess what, gemini and myself, and you and rc would be the first pairs together to win a town game in friemds mafia! and also, we would be the first two pairs to do a clean sweep and go 2-0 in the 2 games. wouldn’t that be cool?

[stungun0404]

ok, got a told you so ready in my pt with gemini in case you vote me, can screenshot it and post it post game if need be

pressure is on you now maria

[stungun0404]

hahaha, tarhalindur tells, that’s what i was looking for!

let’s see how many of these koki has used
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... dard_Tells

chainsaw defense on nico


a stallin’ defense on profii most recently
“a player who attempts to stall a major wagon or a lynch, especially by calling for additional discussion, and especially on a wagon that led or will clearly lead to a lynch, is very probably scum"

gee, where’s that other tell i am searching for?

[stungun0404]

Ok. UNVOTE:

Prof. I will give you 1 hr from your next post to convince me why you are not scum.

yeah, this is a stalling defense, because why does it even matter if profii convinces you and you alone? he was clearly the lynch target with the info we had regardless.

[stungun0404]

aha, borderlands mafia is where i got that idea of 3rd vote on a wagon being scummy, and it being a tarhalindur tell, though i cannot provide links to prove that myself, just the posts

viewtopic.php?p=7649819&user_select%5B% ... 6#p7649819

viewtopic.php?p=7649830&user_select%5B% ... 2#p7649830

viewtopic.php?p=7649875&user_select%5B% ... 9#p7649875
i would beg to differ with this one post: if it is done consistently, it probably is scummy.