Micro 834 : Vanilla 8-Ball : Game Over

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You replaced Saude...

Yeah. I'm saying Saude made himself 8-ball every day until I replaced in.

[PenguinPower]

It's a playstyle thing.

They have all played with me before. Your brief meta wasn't enough...which is what I said.

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I get that now...wow.

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It's a playstyle thing.

They have all played with me before. Your brief meta wasn't enough...which is what I said.

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I get that now...wow.

Eh, I kind of figured. Oh well. Well done!

[the worst]

scum pt released!

[the worst]

i got incredibly t/t vibes from nsg and pp fwiw but also i was spoiled so i was probably always going to

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i got incredibly t/t vibes from nsg and pp fwiw but also i was spoiled so i was probably always going to

Yes. Playing against both of them felt like smashing my head into a brick wall (in a good way, for town.) Both of you guys are very intimidating.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I think I got pocketed by Saudade again lol

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually no I wasn’t, I was onto him this game, I just never tried to push it

[Suka]

Yay! Good game!

Sorry to lynch you, Gamma. At least we got the scum in the end!

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I think you need to recalibrate how you read me cos that’s twice you’ve mislynched me

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s not meant to be mean, it’s actually intended constructively

[pinturicchio]

Yay, we won! Good job everyone for solving it, after muy lynch I thought y'all wouldn't come to an agreement, but Penguin was solid af with his Jingle push.

NSG shame on you, I trusted you :'(

I also think that Gamma's lynch was weird, but hey, a win is a win

[northsidegal]

sorry pintu!

[PenguinPower]

I also think that Gamma's lynch was weird, but hey, a win is a win

It was a bad lynch, but it came at the expense of a no lynch and was rushed. It also let to Jingle making a very scummy comment, so was somewhat beneficial in the end.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait what did he say

[PenguinPower]

Wait what did he say

VOTE: Gamma

Fingers crossed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not sure what exactly was wrong there

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Not sure what exactly was wrong there

A couple reasons, really.

1. Posting like that just comes off as scummy. I can't explain why right now, it just does.

2. These were the four posts right before it:

VOTE: Penguin

I’ll be back to switch my vote before deadline if needed, but I really don’t think it’s saudade. Why tunnel on one of the most active/townread players D1 as scum?

Why do most people seem to want to vote off wagon

VOTE: Penguin

I’ll be back to switch my vote before deadline if needed, but I really don’t think it’s saudade. Why tunnel on one of the most active/townread players D1 as scum?

I mean “to get townread while your partner does the dirty work” is an answer to that question if the other scum is anyone on wagon

5/6 townies voting the last townie while both scum vote elsewhere is extremely, extremely rare
I’m willing to bet the game on the idea that it’s never Penguin/Saudade
VOTE: suka

day two will end in (expired on 2018-12-17 17:00:00), or earlier automatically if a majority lynch is achieved.

VOTE: Irrelephant

I'm going back to what I thought when I still felt I had a handle on this game.

If I flip 8ball I'm like 90% sure it's relly here, that jump to make me the only really viable wagon is gross as fuck, especially when it's a jump to voting not me.

I'll vote Suka before deadline if I'm the only other option, but I really think lynching the CJ slot today is dumb.

Why? PP?

Four posts and he says he's willing to lynch three people that are not GE?

WTF? Lul.

and then there's the last reason (that I can think of)

3. He hammers six minutes after GE is put at L-1 with no post about intent to hammer or anything. Six minutes is not a lot of time to react.

[Jingle]

The phrasing of the post was scummy as hell. The timing really wasn't. I wasn't going to be around to hammer otherwise, and in this setup Lynch > No Lynch, even if the lynch is on a townread.

Also, I kind of went over it in the deadthread, but I think optimal play for this setup is to not bus, aim for hitting the eightball on D2, and let town lead the other lynches. You should 8ball scum only if they're sunk or if you're in LYLO.

As town, never No Lynch and pretty much ignore the mechanics. Not lynching someone out of fear they're the eightball (which I was trying to get everyone to do) just means you're not scumhunting effectively.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah. It was the phrasing. Came across fake as fuck

[Irrelephant11]

Jingle - do you think it is?

Not in a vacuum. I probably post more as scum than town overall, but it's way more indicative of investment in the game/spare time than town/scum.

This gave me certainty you were scum, Jingle. I was looking for either a “yeah I post more as town” (in which case I would have looked to verify) or “no it’s not AI”
The “don’t suspect me for my high post count!” defensive stance of this post removed any doubts I had
But yeah I wasn’t onto you until you tried to scumread Penguin for being funny

Moderation was great!! Not a part of the problem at all
I like that paranoia was part of jingle’s intentional play - I didn’t catch that at all, and makes me feel better about the setup a little bit

I’m proud the game was mostly fun and very playable but if I were to change one thing I think I’d force scum to 8-ball a townie every game day. Defensive play kinda just makes it less interesting. It works better flavor-wise, too (in billiards, when hitting the 8-ball, you have to correctly call which hole it will fall in before you hit).

Sorry to everyone I incorrectly scumread! Thanks to PP and NSG for knocking sense into me in lategame

Shoutout to all replacements who made the game more fun and more playable!

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[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=10647593#p10647593]Also, I kind of went over it in the deadthread, but I think optimal play for this setup is to not bus, aim for hitting the eightball on D2, and let town lead the other lynches. You should 8ball scum only if they're sunk or if you're in LYLO.[/quote]

No kidding

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LYLO is weird because it might be ok to 8-ball no lynch.

[Jingle]

Jingle - do you think it is?

Not in a vacuum. I probably post more as scum than town overall, but it's way more indicative of investment in the game/spare time than town/scum.

This gave me certainty you were scum, Jingle. I was looking for either a “yeah I post more as town” (in which case I would have looked to verify) or “no it’s not AI”
The “don’t suspect me for my high post count!” defensive stance of this post removed any doubts I had

It actually is slightly scum indicative for me, because me being disengaged probably means I either don't care about the game or feel like I don't need to contribute to make my team win, both of which happen more often as town. On the other hand, this was not a high activity game for me it just looked high activity by comparison to the rest of the thread . Also, super weird to me that self meta is considered valid now.

[Jingle]

I would never 8-ball no lynch in 5p LYLO, btw. It's a win more move, in that it only benefits you if you're probably going to win the game regardless of what you do. Comparatively, 8-balling one of the scum is insurance that keeps you in LYLO if they are lynched, which is coincidentally the only way you might lose.

8 ball literally doesn't matter in 3P LYLO, so I guess you 8 ball no lynch, but if town can't manage a lynch in 3P LYLO then scum should be winning hard anyway.