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Post Post #375  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:05 pm

What I mean is: I'm ok with being scumread, even as town, but I knlw for a fact that Slaxx and you ALWAYS scumread me at first, so that's not my problem. You get what I'm saying? Sorry if I sound too grumpy, I'm a little irritated. I'm going to buy a pack of cigs. Tell me if you still don't understand my line of thinking

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Post Post #376  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:06 pm

This was all @skitter btw

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Post Post #377  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:06 pm

ok let's rephrase to: not presented with reasoning that makes the groups agreeable/palpatable to everyone else, which undermines their credibility and makes it more unlikely that people will agree with them at this time

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Post Post #378  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:10 pm

In post 373, Pink Ball wrote:Ok, so it's option number two. Then I'll ask you to stop saying I'm scummy until you just decide if me being scummy is because I'm in fact scum of because you can't read me D1, because I lose all motivation to discuss and explain myself if the other person keeps going with "you sound scummy". I don't feel "listened" that say. Why consider what I'm saying if I'm scummy?


sorry, def didn't want to make you feel this way, not trying to keep reiterating it at you while ignoring you or anything

i more said it because i'm noting that this is how i feel about your slot rn, but since i know that i'm bad at reading you the fact that i'm scumreading you doesn't correlate very well with you actually being scum so i should try to continue sorting you and trying to understnad your pov anyways even though i think you're scummy

does that explain my pov better?
i dont' *think* i'm just shutting down the convo by shouting 'you're scum!' repeatedly at you, and if you felt that way that wasn't how i was trying to approach this, sorry

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Post Post #379  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:11 pm

i don't really understand your lazyreads read still either tho, can you maybe explain it again a little differently?

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Post Post #380  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:25 pm

Holy

I thought this was a slow paced game
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Post Post #381  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:37 pm

@skitter I know you're not doing it intentionally since we came to some good conclusions at the first schadd game after chatting.

About lazyreads: we agree that the groups were weird, right? For me it felt scum!weird like she was pusjingt an agenda. She does have a point tho: there's no difference between what she did to just saying "Eragon and Pink are my scumreads" get us both mislynched and go to LyLo with that. But the way she presented it pinged me 'cause I can't see the correlation between the players inside each group; I don't think that Slaxx and Ank:s flips would make me sorted, for example. And after she said that the post was dumb seemed like she regretted posting it

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Post Post #382  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:07 pm

i agree that the groups were weird
i guess where we're differing tho is that i don't really see any scum intent/motivation for making those groups, and don't view it as scummy. weird, sure. scummy? i don't see it.

i don't really think she thinks that slaxx/ank flipping would sort you? like i didn't view it as a hard/mechanical grouping, more like a rough guideline if that makes sense?

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Post Post #383  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:55 pm

In post 305, Eragon wrote:what about P.5 specifically?


Your entrance was very poor and it of everybody who jumped into the wheat mechanic, yours looked the most fake.
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Post Post #384  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:57 pm

In post 306, Eragon wrote:i dont even remember my response, can you explain what it is and why its scummy?


You buried it under a mountain of fluff. That's generally a good way for scum to subtly push for something without overtly calling attention to it.
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Post Post #385  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:01 pm

In post 309, skitter30 wrote:i think she's less likely to have made up the role if she wasn't aware of the prior setup; if she had some sense of what the setup was i'd be more suspicious of her claiming a weird role. idk if i explained that well, does that make sense?


This isn't very reliable with me, I will gambit and claim something different than my actual role as both alignments.
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Post Post #386  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:07 pm

In post 335, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 308, lazyreads wrote:
In post 297, lazyreads wrote:based off of things i would guess that there is one scum in pink ball, slaxx, ankamius and one scum in skitter, Eragon, tosser

not really sure on the first group, maybe pink ball, second group i would guess eragon

this was dumb btw

Also, posting after that this post was dumb pings me too. Almost as if you knew you would get pushed for it


I really don't like this post
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Post Post #387  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:11 pm

VOTE: Pink Ball

Caught up again.

I don't buy that push as genuine.
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Post Post #388  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:46 pm

:( it Is genuine

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Post Post #389  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:50 pm

In post 374, lazyreads wrote:
In post 370, skitter30 wrote:
In post 365, Eragon wrote:I think its just because like, if we both flip town, then Lazy can just come up and say, "oh it must be the other person instead" which is the "Agenda"
i personally disagree that its scummy. I thought the groups were weird but i just wanted some extra explanation


but the groups are bizarre and kinda obviously baseless so like i don't think she seriously expects people to listen to her and lynch the third member of the group after lynching the other two people in it if they both flip town

they are obviously presented without reasoning that doesnt imply that theyre baseless i dont say things that i dont truly believe unless predicated with a wow and ended with an imo

@skitter if I understood correctly, here she said that the grouping was based by her reasoning, so wouldn't that imply that it was not only for a rough guideline?

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Post Post #390  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:43 pm

VOTE: pink ball the grouping read thing was weird
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Post Post #391  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:44 pm

I voted ank because harvest
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Post Post #392  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:45 pm

I also didn’t really like the explanation
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Post Post #393  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:46 pm

VOTE: tosser
actually maybe tosser doubling down is worse
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Post Post #394  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:53 pm

I think Ank is town, her play is really consistent with the softclaim looking back. I mean that was pretty IRT stuff, that would have been tough to manufacture on the spot.

(Izzy, Lazy, Ank) I think are town in order of confidence. Skitter on the edge.

That leaves (PB/Eragon/Tosser/Aus).

I’ll look more into this tonight.

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Post Post #395  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:22 pm

In post 385, Ankamius wrote:
In post 309, skitter30 wrote:i think she's less likely to have made up the role if she wasn't aware of the prior setup; if she had some sense of what the setup was i'd be more suspicious of her claiming a weird role. idk if i explained that well, does that make sense?


This isn't very reliable with me, I will gambit and claim something different than my actual role as both alignments.

ok, fair enough

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Post Post #396  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:26 pm

In post 389, Pink Ball wrote:@skitter if I understood correctly, here she said that the grouping was based by her reasoning, so wouldn't that imply that it was not only for a rough guideline?


maybe i didn't word that well - i meant more like: she had reasoning, but given that she didn't provide it, the groups she made looks completely arbitrary and baseless to me looking at what she wrote. i don't think that she seriously thinks that based on that post if 2/3 people in one group flip town we're just going to automatically lynch the third person. i don't know what criteria she used to make the groupings but like based on that post it's basically meaningless to me because like i'm obviously not listening to the implications of random groupings that i don't understand the significance of, and i don't think she really expects me (or anyone else) to listen to the implications of random implications that i don't understand the signifcance of

that's why i didn't take it too seriously because i don't think she really believes that if in {A/B/C} A and B flip town that based off of that post we're just going to lynch C

it's not like mechanically we were informed by the mod or whatever that there's exactly one scum in {A/B/C}, in which case lynching C is a reasonable action after A and B flip town

does that make more sense?

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Post Post #397  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:14 pm

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Post Post #398  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:14 pm

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Post Post #399  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:14 pm

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