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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:32 pm

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In post 566, Vex Vience wrote:
@jingle you can reveal my pt whenever. everything in it im ok with showing
You may do so if you wish, as you have the mod permission required to make it public. As it is a personal PT, I leave that in your capable hands. :)


Maf pt will be released in ~48 hours, or whenever I feel less lazy after that. Feel free to request redactions before then.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:32 pm

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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:32 pm

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we lose four townies that way, compared to the one wed lose if you claimed instantly.

townie lynched d1, townie shot n1. cop lynched d2. townie shot n2. scum lynched d3 v scum lynched d1. cop shot n1
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:32 pm

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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:34 pm

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i always request a pt when playing for thoughts and whatnot. if you wanna see what i thought during the game, you can check it out. otherwise, its really just what ive posted in the game.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:34 pm

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In post 573, no lunch wrote:
In post 571, Vex Vience wrote:i wouldnt have ever called myself out as cop. i was also really hoping nl, you were mafia and you decided to claim cop just so i could hammer you and then say "youre not cop, im the cop. die scum"
This would have been funny, if nothing else.
thats what i was really hoping for. i was so excited for your claim because if it was cop i was just gonna hammer you instantly and say you werent cop. i wanted it so badly.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 542, no lunch wrote:
In post 537, u r a person 2 wrote:If you're saying I backed off last night, I went to dinner and then had to prepare with my team for a meeting that happened early this morning. It's a forum game and you do not have a guarantee of my time for any period of time. I'm not actually looking for unsolicited play advice here. I'm just looking for you to not walk away from this thinking that I somehow mistreated you because I did not.
Did you have no opportunity to engage with me in good faith afterwards? Because you were certainly around to encourage others to hammer me.
Again, you do not have the right to my time. You do not have the right to a good read from me. You do not have the right to have me play a skillful game. None of these are rights that you have.

And the answer is, no. I really did not. I had the time for the comments I made.

I'm not going to apologize for pushing a lynch forcefully. In any town game, I'm the only person I know is town. As town, focusing the lynch on my scum read and off of my town reads is working towards my wincon.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:36 pm

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i even mentioned it in my personal pt lol
In post 32, Vex Vience wrote:i think nl will always flip scum here. i just hope he decides to claim cop so i can quickhammer him.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:37 pm

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i genuinely thought you were scum though nl.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:38 pm

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I'd 100% have backed off in Vex's shoes if nl claimed cop.

Because the chances of a lyncher cop claim that eats AND stops the N1 nightkill? Priceless.

Also, mod topic link is available in the OP, but it's literally just the OP and role randomization. I think there's a typo in the 'can't edit this' post, but otherwise it's not really worth reading.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:39 pm

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true, but if nl claimed cop, my thoughts are that hes mafia who got caught. therefore id always hammer that.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:40 pm

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i dont get why a lyncher would claim cop in that case. id just claim lyncher and call out someone random as my target just to see the chaos from that.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:41 pm

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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:42 pm

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itd be more fun to see the town just try to figure out if i was truthful in them being my target or not. ultimately itd also help me get my target lynched since most likely the town would ignore whoever i called out.
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:44 pm

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It is very easy to mention in-thread that you do not have time to finish the conversation. I do not believe that either of us were blameless in this.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:46 pm

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Lyncher ALWAYS claims cop in this setup, because a nk aimed at them is a nightkill not aimed at their target, and they REALLY don't want the scumteam to figure out who their target is.

If you back down and let the night phase happen, either A. someone other than cop claim dies, nl basically confgoon. B. no one dies, nl basically conf lyncher, and (more importantly) lynched without outing the cop. C. There's a slight chance that no one dies and nl is a goon, which means that nl's partner reshoots the following night, either killing the lyncher or killing the lyncher's target AND the lyncher. Being the person to back down there makes it super unlikely you eat the bullet, so you've basically guaranteed you have 2 nights with no one on your ass to investigate and town is basically in autowin as long as you don't get run up on D1 after the cop claim.


Of course, nl has to claim cop in the first place to make that happen, but.... That's why Clemency is better than everyone else. :P
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:47 pm

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Lyncher claims cop because a lyncher claim is never nightkilled.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:47 pm

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In post 589, no lunch wrote:It is very easy to mention in-thread that you do not have time to finish the conversation. I do not believe that either of us were blameless in this.
lol. Can you point me to all the places where the people not treating you as 'sub-human' told the thread that they were going to dinner, or going to bed, or going to work and would not be available?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:48 pm

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ill have to think about that a bit more later jingle. i still think that if someone claims cop, the cop should always cc it since its more likely theyre mafia than lyncher.

pedit: yea but then mafia know youre lyncher
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:49 pm

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In post 588, Vex Vience wrote:most likely the town would ignore whoever i called out.
unless scum shoots them N2 to test your WIFOM. Scum ALSO can't let the lynchee be lynched.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:49 pm

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I'm to blame for my bad read. That's it.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:50 pm

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You are still tunnelled on me. I am not mafia in real life, and am not intent on a smear campaign against you. Back off, and we may resume this at a later time should you wish. In the interim I suggest we simply avoid each other in games.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:50 pm

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i mean, at that point im already dead so it doesnt really matter. they lynch someone else, and mafia shoot someone who isnt my target meaning that i got a greater shot of having my target lynched.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:50 pm

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In post 593, Vex Vience wrote:pedit: yea but then mafia know youre lyncher
Or the cop, until they shoot you D1.

If they shoot the lyncher D1, lyncher just lolcats the rest of the game away. Being lynched doesn't suck for the lyncher. Being shot is actively good for the lyncher. :]
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:51 pm

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In post 596, no lunch wrote:You are still tunnelled on me. I am not mafia in real life, and am not intent on a smear campaign against you. Back off, and we may resume this at a later time should you wish. In the interim I suggest we simply avoid each other in games.
That's fine by me. I disagree tho. Saying I treated you as sub-human was about as scummy as it gets.
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