Auro and Shoshin
TDC
shEll
teacher
Voyc
Oversoul
Auro and Shoshin:
The vote for Dup and the questioning of NSMA early on is by no means something that can’t come from scum but it melded with my brain because I had the same reaction to those posts. I find mind melding enables good conversation so King read to me like a player who I can work with and easily sort if need be. I also feel like
74 doesn’t come from scum. Specifically him taking ownership with his content. I would expect him to deflect and to point fingers then to happily oblige to acknowledging what little he had produced up until that point.
A&S for a second made me want to go back on this read but I don’t see why scum takes the time to ISO their predecessor when they aren’t in danger let alone say they town told. However since then, both heads have laid out thoughts in a clear and concise matter.
TDC:
I didn’t feel good about him as I was catching up. I briefly mentioned why earlier but I’m going to touch on it some more right now. I have another game with TDC under my belt and while he did give off the impression that he was a veteran and a no nonsense kind of guy, I still find
30 weird. He asks Shell to clarify what he means by stating that NSMA was his partner. This on the surface could appear as a older player annoyed by the introduction of wine so early but I didn’t get that when I reread it. It appears more like an attempt to scum hunt, except this kind of question isn’t going to accomplish that or lead to it. There’s no response that is going to help TDC understand the motivation as either alignment for the action because there isn’t one. My issue here is that I feel TDC knows better and is unlikely to ask this sort of inquiry as town.
My next issue is
49 in which he gets on Dup for not willing to answer my predecessors RQS questions. He asks Dup what does he have to lose and the answer to that question is patience and time. RQS has historically not helped town find scum or generate much meaningful discussion and to let it go on like it almost did can create a game state that is filled with apathy. This coupled with the geriatric rule set only spells doom for me.
Now I wouldn’t have an issue with this post if the follow up wasn’t so bad. He claims that the questions will generate discussion at some point but doesn’t explain how or why in
63. A random vote is a lot different than a random set of questions that don’t have anything to do with game at hand. You can be held accountable for a random vote. You can create pressure with a random vote. You can create and join wagons with a random vote. You can generate information by how people respond or not to random votes. The problem with random questions is that people can answer most of them by simply working with information they have from outside of the game, which allows people to answer the questions in a mindset detached from their alignment.
The following isn’t much of a factor into my read but just things that I don’t quite understand. I didn’t read my predecessor’s ISO to be fair so I can’t gauge whether or not the commentary from TDC on the back and forth between Oversoul is alignment indicative. It seems like he was trying to say Oversoul should have voted my slot when my predecessor referred to a post on why he’s voting someone else. He further explains what he was getting at in
171 and
197 but it is still unclear to me what was the point of all that.
Shell:
I immediately wanted to scum read Shell for
15 until I quickly remembered that we are playing under the geriatric rule set and every post counts. I also have seen town get more frustrated and react to Saudade early on that way more than scum. TDC can attest to this.
27 melded with my brain heavy and the tone just comes off very town to me. The read on R&M was bad but I think it’s a position that scum are unlikely to take due to how it go against the grain without necessarily being iron clad.
I love him trying to get my predecessor and Dup to come back to the actual game and focus on things more important in
114. While this still can come from scum, I like to think he would just stop at pointing out how much time both players are spending on the questions instead of going further and telling my predecessor that he better be eventually using these questions to game solve at some point and giving Dup a bit of a tounge lashing.
teacher:
Dup was one of my major scum reads early on in my catch-up. From his RVS vote for NSMA and his awkward vote for Shell in
19. I didn’t agree with
29 and felt like he was calling the kettle black a little bit because it read to me like he was trying to convince himself his vote was solid as opposed to actually believing it is.
I did like
55 as he explained exactly why RQS is bad and not worth entertaining but he got worse with his reaction to King in
69. He misrepresented King by asking if he thought that the votes early on should have had good reasoning. This is not at all why King decided to keep his vote on Dup. Dup followed a bad reasoning instead of choosing not to and I found it hard to believe Dup didn’t get that being the issue.
King was v/LA and while that doesn’t exempt him from his lack of content, it’s a lot more understandable that he hadn’t done much compared to someone not on v/LA. He points out why the RQS questions were terrible again but then shades Shell and Voyc by saying they aren’t following up.
It wasn’t until
106 and
107 that I started to feel better about Dup. His frustration reads genuine and the growing distain is something I’m having trouble seeing it come from scum. Sure, you could argue that he was giving himself busy work and tunneling to appear like he had a legitimate scum read but he was also making a lot of noise and drawing a ton of attention in the process over something that ultimately benefits him as scum. This is further supported by
109. If he was scum, why question a wagon based on faulty reasoning and give the player a potential out by requesting some meta?
Looking back, I don’t like teacher as much as I thought I did but I still like that he came with a different view on the game in terms of his scum reads and wasn’t shy on pushing them. I’m not sure what this means but I know it doesn’t make me want to lynch them right now.
voyc:
She’s probably my strongest town read. She’s actively game solving and being very transparent so I’m not sure why people are reading her different. I can elaborate if need be but I encourage people to look over her ISO again before doing so because I’m not seeing a world where she’s scum right now
Oversoul:
I had felt that the suspicions regarding my slot and the way he interacted with me and my predecessor was in good faith. It’s not until I reread him again that I noticed why he had voted for voyc at one point. In
127, it’s clear that he reevaluated his read on her and felt good enough to move her up significantly on his reads but almost a 100 posts later he says he can wagon her in
212 and
224 says she has felt off all game. This is weird because he had a moment of reevaluation earlier and there was little to no interaction between the two after that and no mention of why the off feeling had crept back in and compelled him to forget why he was feeling better about her. So overall I still feel good here but there has been some recent doubt.
. Plus I think I am now pretty sortable.
