In post 340, We Only Bus As Town wrote:
Why is it scummy to scumread someone for being a low poster, especially if said poster has been making posts in the thread, but the posts don't have much content to them? If you were simply away from the game due to IRL reasons and you were getting scumread over it that would be one thing, but that isn't the case here. Simply put, you don't have a lot of posts, but you are getting scumread over some of the posts that you do have.
In any case, your progression on Ank is sketchy. You start off by calling her scummy for shading you and said that it's scummy to scumread a low poster. Then you did a 180 on this stance and called Ank town on the basis that 1) “She is putting more efforts in finding scum than other people” and 2) “the analysis she has been doing I haven't seen from anyone else so far.” You haven’t really talked about the merit’s of Ank’s analysis, only that you feel that she has done more analysis than everyone else. If I am understanding you correctly, your townread on Ank is mostly about her
effort
in relation to everyone else – you believe that she is putting in the most effort with her analysis/scumhunting and that she is town on that basis. As opposed to you townreading her based on the
content
of her analysis, which you haven’t really talked about at all.
My first counterpoint would be that I think that your observation is wrong, as other slots such as Skitter and Enter have done a fair amount of “analysis” and have discussed their reads etc. Ank is not the only slot that has been doing this. And secondly, why do you think that effort or “doing a lot of analysis” is in-and-of-itself town-indicative? The content of one’s analysis is usually going to be much more alignment-indicative than the quantity of it. So why haven’t you talked about specific content from Ank that you believe is town-indicative?
- Town (Volxen)
Yes you are right. I was wrong that only Ankamius is being solvy. Instead other people such as Enter and skitter have done much more analysis and are much more helpful for the town.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
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'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 353, skitter30 wrote:Like volxen's dweller post there feels really, really icky
Dweller's stance towards Ank doesn't really make sense given Ank's treatment of his slot. If I were playing a game as a newbie and an experienced player -- let alone one who has a strong reputation as scum -- was aggressively pushing my slot, I would have at least some degree of paranoia that said player could be scum. Dweller's lack of paranoia on that front and the certainty with which he is townreading Ank isn't natural coming from a newb!town mindset. Especially considering that the entire basis of his townread on Ank revolves around how much "effort" she is putting in.
- Town (Volxen)
Yes I was paranoid but I didn't want to escalate the discussion. Because most of the time heated discussions lead to mislynches. And nothing can be worse if both of the people involved in a debate are town. That's why I also didn't pushed her further. Regardless of she having suspicions on me and she finding me scummy, I think it will go in town's benefit if we have a person who really wants to figure stuff out. So I am satisfied with her overall effort. The only thing that I disagree with is she bringing WOBAT in the discussion when we were talking about me. This really rubbed me the wrong way.
I know that it is also my mistake that I didn't contribute much and gave my reads about others. And it is perfectly natural to scumread me for those reasons. And I accept it and I apologize for that. But now that I have more time I will try to analyze and solve the game because this is the best thing that a town should do.
I also want Ank to please give more better reasoning than she had already stated. Because there are some things that doesn't make sense. But if she doesn't come up with much better reasonings then I will have to reconsider my thoughts on her.
You seem to be bringing up the same point that I brought up, namely that it doesn't make sense how Ank tried to tie our two slots together. If you were paranoid that Ank could have been scum pushing you, then why wouldn’t you want to "escalate" things and directly challenge her on this? If anything, pushing her and seeing how she reacts would help you to solidify your read on her one way or the other. If I'm understanding you correctly, you also seem to be simultaneously saying that 1) you were paranoid that Ank could be scum and 2) that you've been townreading Ank all along, because you said that "nothing can be worse if both of the people involved in a debate are town" and offered that as the reason for you not pushing Ank. How do you reconcile taking both of those stances at the same time?
