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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:33 pm

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In post 1755, Dannflor wrote:btw my problems with you were

well I think I had this like fever dream while I was sick that everything clicked together and I KNEW you were scum for some reason but now that I'm actually thinking about it I have nothing like that

I did feel that you coming into Psyche's slot were doing exactly what a scum!january would need to do to win the game however. Like you come in with one hard scum read on Gamma, basically just sheeping me, and then when Gamma turns out to be an IC you kinda flounder for a while and from an outside perspective it felt to me like you were panicking a little bit. The jump to challenging the Penguin town reads instead of say, Blatant Scum, who was next in line on your reads list seemed off to me, like you needed to break up the consensus town reads first instead of going for the lower hanging lynch bait in order to win. There's also the fact that you're paranoid of me at first, and then when I express suspicions of you, you completely drop that paranoia which sorta read like a desperate attempt to pocket me?

A lot of this might seem like conf biasing, and maybe it is, but I think it's important to get it all out there anyway.

Also, I kinda feel like your Banakai "town tell" is very weak and the extent to which you're defending him reads TMI.
Tbh I don’t think you’re confbiasing because I got the exact impression you did
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:15 pm

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In post 1774, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: january

Town!january doesn’t ask to be flipped first.
neither does scum!january

oh wait one of us is wrong and it isn't me
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 1773, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1765, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1760, january wrote:will respond in a bit but does tmi stand for something other than “too much information”? i’m not what u mean by TRing someone as too much info
Meaning, I don't think your reasoning for Banakai!town is enough to justify the strength of read you seem to have on him. So that leads me to believe that maybe you have that read because you know his alignment.
Yeah, she keeps hard defending Banaki and throwing
shade at everyone else.
Maybe I’m wrong and january is the scum and Banaki really is just horribly bad town? These recent posts just don’t make sense coming from january town.
lol stop misrepping i'm sure all 1.5 people ive said are possible scum is "everyone else" right
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:17 pm

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In post 1768, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@january if I’m scum here, I don’t unvote you and switch to Banaki. You’re making this extremely difficult for me to persuade Dann into lynching Banaki over you. :/
where did i call you scum what
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:19 pm

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In post 1774, Pyrrha Nikos wrote: Town!january doesn’t ask to be flipped first.
also: remember when you said this about banakai

well we can't both be maf so you're gonna have to rethink that
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:20 pm

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also since pyrrha really wants me to get lynched accidentally

I'm at L-1 right now
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:23 pm

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In post 1771, Pyrrha Nikos wrote: The obvious “benefit” is you’re TMIing him town and you wanting to be flipped first isn’t exactly giving me confidence that it isn’t. If you’re scum here who knows he’s town,
why wouldn’t you insist on being flipped first?
because you know he’s town and you’re getting lynched after? Your response just doesn’t make sense if you’re town.
uh because that would make me lose.....
why would i want to be lynched today instead of taking my chances tomorrow?
Your logic just doesn't make sense if you're logical.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:45 pm

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Official Vote Count 3.18
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LynchingWith 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

january
(3): PenguinPower, Gamma Emerald, Pyrrha Nikos
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Not Voting
(3): january, Blatant Scum, Dannflor

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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:49 pm

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Will be here after in weekend.
Try to not lynch January, will try to ISO herm
Don’t forget about how when I asked him for a link to his scumgame, he linked THIS game. - Pyrrha Nikos
He usually never puts effort into reads like that, which does sometimes get him scumread, but since he was on an alt and we didn't know his meta, I can see CL!him making reads as an exception since he knows he'll probably be scumread otherwise.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:05 pm

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oops i was going to lynch january guess i'll wait
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:08 pm

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it is really hard to objectively look at slots when Pyrrha swings her vote every time someone implies there’s a chance she could be scum

Like I think she’s never scum here

But also it makes it hard to read the game because I’m not sure which parts are a genuine read
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:09 pm

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also like I don’t even know that I want to lynch january

I don’t know who I want to lynch at all

Sorry guys no masterplan I’m just trying to figure things out
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:12 pm

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worst case scenario we actually only have two lynches so it’s best to slow play this
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:27 pm

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In post 1785, Dannflor wrote:it is really hard to objectively look at slots when Pyrrha swings her vote every time someone implies there’s a chance she could be scum

Like I think she’s never scum here

But also it makes it hard to read the game because I’m not sure which parts are a genuine read
i’ve noticed and i’ve avoided triggering this reaction on accident

i have no idea why i got swung on again? i didn’t even call her maf this time
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:29 pm

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In post 1786, Dannflor wrote:also like I don’t even know that I want to lynch january

I don’t know who I want to lynch at all

Sorry guys no masterplan I’m just trying to figure things out
We don’t need a masterplan
Just need you to stop killing the momentum
This is the third day in a row you’ve wanted to wait to sort the game
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:13 pm

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In post 1783, Blatant Scum wrote:Will be here after in weekend.
Try to not lynch January, will try to ISO herm
UNVOTE:

Fine
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:17 pm

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In post 1785, Dannflor wrote:it is really hard to objectively look at slots
when Pyrrha swings her vote every time someone implies there’s a chance she could be scum


Like I think she’s never scum here

But also it makes it hard to read the game because I’m not sure which parts are a genuine read
Dann, I am really getting irritated that you keep saying this nonsense about me. Read my reasoning and stop fucking misrepping me already!

I said. I don’t believe town!january would say she wanted to be flipped before Banaki because it makes 0 sense to do that as town
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:19 pm

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In post 1774, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: january

Town!january doesn’t ask to be flipped first.
@Dann, exactly what part of this reads to you as my reason for voting january has anything to with anything OTHER than this?

And I also expect a fucking apology for your continual discrediting of my reasoning for making reads.
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:28 pm

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In post 1791, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1785, Dannflor wrote:it is really hard to objectively look at slots
when Pyrrha swings her vote every time someone implies there’s a chance she could be scum


Like I think she’s never scum here

But also it makes it hard to read the game because I’m not sure which parts are a genuine read
Dann, I am really getting irritated that you keep saying this nonsense about me. Read my reasoning and stop fucking misrepping me already!

I said. I don’t believe town!january would say she wanted to be flipped before Banaki because it makes 0 sense to do that as town
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Town!january only knows her alignment, no one else’s, well except of course for Gamma’s, so for her to say she wanted to be flipped before Banaki, regardless of how strong her confidence in her read on that slot, makes 0 sense as town.

It reads like as you said, she has a TMI on Banaki being town.

Otoh, it’s not at all suspicious if she instead were to say, “I refuse to vote Banaki, even to self-pres”, because that could even be seen as town indicative but to actually say, she should be flipped before someone no matter how confident she may be on their alignment, she can’t actually KNOW it unless she’s scum and that’s WHY I voted her but stop pushing her wrongheaded beliefs about me, especially when I clearly laid it out for you in black and white, EXACTLY what my reasoning was.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:39 pm

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If january had said, I want to be flipped before Pyrrha, I would have still voted her. Town!january should never say she wanted to be flipped before ANYONE in this game, except maybe Gamma.

Sorry I lost my temper but I clearly gave my reasoning and because of your bs conibiasing on my reasons for making reads, you decided to completely disregard exactly what I wrote, so yeah I have every right to be fucking missed about that. Don’t do it again. If I give a valid reason for something, don’t fucking ignore that and substitute your own interpretation.

I really get pissed when people take something I clearly say and substitute a different interpretation of it. That’s extremely disrespectful to me and I would react just as strongly if you did that to me outside of the game. You probably didn’t mean to disrespect here but you did
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:52 pm

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In post 1776, january wrote:
In post 1774, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: january

Town!january doesn’t ask to be flipped first.
neither does scum!january

oh wait one of us is wrong and it isn't me
Why would town!you who presumably knows her own alignment, ever want to be flipped over another slot - regardless of how confident you are on your read of them? Can you explain this, because it makes absolutely no sense for town!ANYONE to be doing that?

I would never say as town, flip me before Dann, Penguin, BS. Because eventhough I’m extremely confident they’re all town, I don’t exactly KNOW they are. I could however make that statement about Gamma, because he is actually unofficially confirmed as IC.

Do you understand why I would be super suspicious of that?
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:55 pm

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In post 1784, january wrote:oops i was going to lynch january guess i'll wait
:o

You’re not joking? You were seriously planning to self-hammer? Why? Why would you do that? You don’t KNOW Banaki’s alignment if you’re town, so why fall on your sword for him?
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:59 pm

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In post 1777, january wrote:
In post 1773, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1765, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1760, january wrote:will respond in a bit but does tmi stand for something other than “too much information”? i’m not what u mean by TRing someone as too much info
Meaning, I don't think your reasoning for Banakai!town is enough to justify the strength of read you seem to have on him. So that leads me to believe that maybe you have that read because you know his alignment.
Yeah, she keeps hard defending Banaki and throwing
shade at everyone else.
Maybe I’m wrong and january is the scum and Banaki really is just horribly bad town? These recent posts just don’t make sense coming from january town.
lol stop misrepping i'm sure all 1.5 people ive said are possible scum is "everyone else" right
It makes 0 sense to me that you have such a confident tr on Banaki that you would want to be flipped BEFORE him.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:04 am

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In post 1796, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1784, january wrote:oops i was going to lynch january guess i'll wait
:o

You’re not joking? You were seriously planning to self-hammer? Why? Why would you do that? You don’t KNOW Banaki’s alignment if you’re town, so why fall on your sword for him?
Alright, I’m thinking maybe she was actually serious, if so I’m back to her being inexplicably drunk on Banaki koolade, I guess?

But I’ll wait to revote, because Dann will apparently ignore my clearly stated reasoning and claim it was because they didn’t locktown me and I don’t want to lose it on him again, when he clearly didn’t intentionally disrespect me but jsyk Dann, I am 100% not okay with what you did there.
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:17 am

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@Dann, somehow you have wrongly got this idea in your head that I automatically sr anyone wo expresses suspicion on me. That is very wrong. Read Topaz, where Ank wrongly insisted I was lockscum at one point. I never either sr or voted her for it. Ditto with RC in Newsroom and I could find tons of other games to back this up. If I’m not hardtown reading someone or I don’t buy their reasoning for sr me, yes, I will then sr them back and maybe even vote them. I did that to Ank in Coalition 1, after she tried to push a mislynch on me in Timeshift and it looked to me like she might again have been scum doing that. The point is, I don’t sr someone for wrongly sr me, if I think their reasons for doing so make sense to me, is my point but when you say that my reason for voting january was anything other than I specifically said it was, you not only disable MY personal effectiveness in trying to best try to solve this game, you also collectively hurt town’s - whether you even realize it or not.
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