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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:05 pm

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I think it's a slight problem. I think it's slightly scumsided. I'm not sure what the replacement should be, or maybe whether it's both the most scumsided route but too close to the runner up that it should actually be adjusted or replaced.


Im also wondering if there is a way to rewrite the setup so that it is mechanically identical but easier to follow which power will trigger from which lynch, perhaps by making it an accumulation of triggers from the deaths instead of those who are living.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:06 pm

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I'm fine with mods playing tough on deadlines. Sometimes the mod does have to be the bad game. That is not where I would allocate much or any blame.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:10 pm

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Shos played really well in the second day phase. I think Cheeky probably played just fine in a way that I didn't manage to jive with. Flub outright did not do viable wagoning on day 1 as town in a setup that's backbreaking for a deadline no lynch, so I found that frustrating, a lot more frustrating than his reads or playstyle or anything was(n't).
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:12 pm

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Fireshoes I appreciate you trying out the setup, it gives me some insight into mafia design to have some variety in perspectives, your perspective was different from more mechanically inclined players like Asriel or shos. I hope you can think of you didn't suffer too much.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:07 pm

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In post 1145, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I was seriously overgamed, I didn’t understand the mechanics
Same.
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:36 pm

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In post 1149, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1147, popsofctown wrote:I'm sorry that was so souring Pyrrha.
It's a flaw in the setup design, majority lynch + evens + the skipped NK being specifically night 2 which makes D1 mislynch better than no lynch in all cases was a perfect storm of bad design.
I bear some mistake in how I made the setup, I shouldn't have overlooked it. It should be changed to address one of those three things IF NOT two of them
Yeah, town should never be put in that kind of position where you are forced to choose between two tr due to time constraints. @Dunn, I think you absolutely should have agreed to my extension request. If a maj lynch is required, than you need a lot more time, especially on D1 but my being seriously overgamed was the main reason but Dunn is also saying that the Healer card fucked us anyway, so the setup design was clearly extremely conducive to a scum win.

Not taking anything away from Drew and especially Shos who clearly fooled me but Pops was correct on scum!Shos based on N1 NKA. I actually haven’t had time to follow this game. I saw Dunn’s link in the micro queue, so I posted.
The irony about the NK is that Shos wanted to kill Flubb, but I convinced Shos that mechanically killing Asriel was better.

Our initial belief was that keeping the healer in play was ideal.
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:41 pm

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I think your NK was the superior choice through my 20/20 hindsight glasses Drew.
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:00 pm

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In post 1153, popsofctown wrote:Fireshoes I appreciate you trying out the setup, it gives me some insight into mafia design to have some variety in perspectives, your perspective was different from more mechanically inclined players like Asriel or shos. I hope you can think of you didn't suffer too much.
<3

I’ll live but seriously the main reason I repped out was because I was way overgamed. It was actually affecting my health atp.
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:02 pm

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In post 1156, popsofctown wrote:I think your NK was the superior choice through my 20/20 hindsight glasses Drew.
Yeah apparently Drew is way more mech savvy than I realized. :lol:
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:03 pm

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I thought maybe you repped out because you don't like me
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:04 pm

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@Pops, I’ll tell you what, if this game is rerun and improved and at a time where I’m not overgamed, let me know and I’ll sign up for it.

I can’t promise it will be under this alt though. :wink:
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 1159, popsofctown wrote:I thought maybe you repped out because you don't like me
:(

Oh know, why would you think that? That couldn’t be further from the truth. Had you been the NK like you expected, I would probably have replaced out even sooner because I really wanted to play with you. I’d even be up for a possible hydra in the future if you were interested.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:10 pm

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In post 1154, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1145, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:I was seriously overgamed, I didn’t understand the mechanics
Same.
But had I actually had the time, I would have probably figured it out, because it’s still way easier to wrap my brain around than that TK game, which I’m still more or less clueless about.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:14 pm

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I don't like hydra-ing a whole lot, I might would make an exception for you because it's kind of a specialty for you and I've never seen you use it as "it's like playing but I can afk half the time without getting replaced"
I'll probably chat you on discord sometime soon
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 1158, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1156, popsofctown wrote:I think your NK was the superior choice through my 20/20 hindsight glasses Drew.
Yeah apparently Drew is way more mech savvy than I realized. :lol:
Just when you think you have all the answers to figure out Drew....... Drew changes the questions.

And I for one like playing with you Pops, and Pyrrah......and everyone in this game tbh.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:06 am

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Read the scum chat, that was incredibly fun and interesting. Thanks for the game guys. There was at least one part where I think pops suspected perfectly, this game was tense. Loved the ending lylo That tho, don't think I ever managed to get that as scum
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:20 pm

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Mafia pt is open
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:05 pm

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Oh shit.....forgot I outed Pyrrah in the PT.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:07 pm

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i think pyrrha has been outed a few times
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:12 pm

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In post 1168, the worst wrote:i think pyrrha has been outed a few times
Mafia Scums worst kept secret haha.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:36 pm

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In post 1166, Dunnstral wrote:Mafia pt is open
In post 1165, shos wrote:Read the scum chat, that was incredibly fun and interesting. Thanks for the game guys. There was at least one part where I think pops suspected perfectly, this game was tense. Loved the ending lylo That tho, don't think I ever managed to get that as scum
Link?
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:07 pm

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In post 836, Lucky2u said:

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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:49 am

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