Micro 953: Treestump Express [Game Over]

[pighawk]

Thank you. Do you think it’s an honest attempt to sort your?

[chkflip]

Again, if what they're saying is true, then my more or less saying "I expected my rage to get me here but nobody is pushing it wtf" would be strange to them. So, yes.

I'd like to see the game(s) they're referencing for it, though, if I'm honest.

[pighawk]

Sup?

Why flip?

-Hawk

[Tuxedo Mask]

Sup?

Why flip?

-Hawk

Only one I don't town read.

[Chemist1422]

I advise you unvote, PH

I think you're town based off this and you've gotten the gamestate warp you wanted

VOTE: Alice

Post towards pighawk looks like a towncred grab given that they were already voting PH

Chem has f you thought I was town, why would Alice’s vote on me look like a grab for towncred?

It wasn’t the vote

It was a lack of hammer vote on a wagon they were already on

[Chemist1422]

fwiw

I play up my hate for F3 but I think it's pretty much all WIFOM in this setup which is not super fun imo

I've joined this setup twice because I've liked the playerlist and mod and I like playing treestump

ok back to more directly relevant stuff

[Chemist1422]

fwiw

I play up my hate for F3 but I think it's pretty much all WIFOM in this setup which is not super fun imo

I've joined this setup twice because I've liked the playerlist and mod and I like playing treestump

ok back to more directly relevant stuff

[chkflip]

If the stumps want their voices heard, uh, maybe they should speak?

Let's not drag this on boys.

[Egix96]

Ruff.

[pighawk]

Votecount 1.Final

[5] pighawk :

AliceRaider45 (116), Hoptic (275), Egix96 (460), PookyTheMagicalBear (422), chkflip (480)

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear :

Shrek and Donkey (372)

[1] Egix96 :

SherlockHolmes (202)

[1] AliceRaider45 :

Chemist1422 (457)

[1] Hoptic :

pighawk (466)

[0] Not voting :

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to treestump. pighawk has been stumped.

Hoptic (1)- hawk
chkflip (2)- Tuxedo Mask, pig
Chemist1422 (0)-

Not Mooting - SherlockHolmes, AliceRaider45, PookyTheMagicalBear

[pighawk]

god damn it quote wasn't supposed to be there ignore that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think it's chemist or hoptic

leaning chemist

[pighawk]

Hoptic (1)- hawk
chkflip (2)- Tuxedo Mask, pig
Chemist1422 (1)- Pooky

Not Mooting - SherlockHolmes, AliceRaider45
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Hawk pointed out to me that Hop would be more likely to put chem in the 3 because of being in the previous game.

I will say that chemist is lurking even harder this game than last.
Hop - If you were in the game last time as you say, and you know how I (Porkens) played then as scum, why would you not even mention the difference with this game?
Flip - I'm definitely not satisfied with your refusal to give reads.

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The more I look at the flips, the more I think the choice wasn't so much about who to eliminate from voting and more about who to eliminate from clearing. Either Hop or Flip would be pretty active as stumps I think, whereas Alice, holms, donkey were more likely to lurk?

[Chemist1422]

I'm lurking harder because this game is twice as slow :v

[Chemist1422]

Game feels like a crawl rn which is not great for my engagement level

^^^

If I were to force something out, Hectic seems sort of unmotivated to solve and I don’t really like Hopkirk being more banter-y than not

please only remember this read if it’s correct

Tbf, Hect does feel a bit less "serious mode" compared to the game where I was scum with him.

Ok here’s something:

This spoiler contains four posts from four players. Rank these posts from Towniest to Scumiest and give a reason.

Spoiler:

When someone is certain they have a scum player figured out they use FINGER OF DEATH on that scum - we all vote him.

if that person is scum - we win.

if that person is town, we lynch whoever used the FINGER OF DEATH in the end-game.

Crazy, let's do it!

When someone is certain they have a scum player figured out they use FINGER OF DEATH on that scum - we all vote him.

if that person is scum - we win.

if that person is town, we lynch whoever used the FINGER OF DEATH in the end-game.

I think this is objectively a bad plan, especially because it’s been called

Playing under the assumption that scum are willing to WIFOM this out and will never push a partner:
Town on town - (7/9) * (3/4) = 7/12 = 58.3%
Town on scum - (7/9) * (1/4) = 7/36 = 19.4%
Scum on town - (2/9) = 2/9 = 22.2%

So mathematically that works out to a 58.3% scum winrate, while voting randomly (1-(7/9 * 2/3)) is only a 51.8% chance

It's somehow even more magnificent than before.

Reads:
• Shrek and Donkey are probably unaligned.
• Sherlock Holmes is very kind for repeating out loud everything he writes.

FINGER OF DEATH: Misty

Your first mistake was assuming the finger of death was bound to your mortal rules of EV calculation. What would you like your final meal to be?

pighawk, why did 36 warrant a vote?

-Hecti

I feel like I would have to do a lot of incessant nitpicking in order to derive anything from this.

let's talk about this post

does egix mention not being able to get anything from it because he knows they're all town and can't get a non-biased view of it, or because he doesn't want to take a stance on his partner?

[pighawk]

Not sure. @Flip, what is your reaction to 95?

[Chemist1422]

[static]

[pighawk]

[static]

Let's hear your 'static' thoughts on Hoptic and Chkflip!

~Hawk

[chkflip]

Not sure. @Flip, what is your reaction to 95?

Of the two, I think Chemist's is worse. Not bussing your partner at least a little bit D1 seems like bad play. And the vote on Egix kind of doubles down on my bad vibes there.

[Chemist1422]

[static]

Let's hear your 'static' thoughts on Hoptic and Chkflip!

~Hawk

chk seems a bit more transparent this f3, I would probably vote hoptic over them if I had to vote right now

[Tuxedo Mask]

Votecount 1.Final

[5] pighawk :

AliceRaider45 (116), Hoptic (275), Egix96 (460), PookyTheMagicalBear (422), chkflip (480)

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear :

Shrek and Donkey (372)

[1] Egix96 :

SherlockHolmes (202)

[1] AliceRaider45 :

Chemist1422 (457)

[1] Hoptic :

pighawk (466)

[0] Not voting :

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to treestump. pighawk has been stumped.

Okay just giving this a look over. Can each stumped townie say why they think they were stumped?

Pooky and Alive I think are the most important to figure out.

I just don't think stumping everyone on wagon except themselves makes sense for scum Chemist. So I think of scum as Hoptic or Chkflip for a moment let's think about that. It means their only other option is Alice and Pooky. Perhaps scum didn't want to face off against either of these for some reason and choose who they viewed as a weak Lylo performer even if it meant breaking the pattern. Pighawk should know what I'm talking about, and as people who went through the conundrum as scum I would love their insight.

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.1

[3] Not voting :

Chemist1422, Hoptic, chkflip

With 3 alive, it’s 2 to treestump. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-14 14:52:59).

[pighawk]

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=83117

[pighawk]

in The end it came down to limiting information. We picked the two least vocal players and me. I went in instead of chem for wifom. I think that was basically what it boiled down to.

Hawk?

[pighawk]

I went instead of hawk*