Micro 955: Variant Nomination Mafia (Game Over)

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Micro 955: Variant Nomination Mafia (Game Over)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:57 pm

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Good [TIME OF DAY NOT FOUND] and welcome. This is a test of...

Variant Nomination Mafia


Current Status
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Game Over
Result
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Mafia victory!


Full Test Subject Roster
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Spoiler:
hellbooks
PookyTheMagicalBear
replaced DkKoba

Yukino
Elbirn
replaced Nash

Raya36
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Varsoon

Test Subject Status
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Spoiler:
In Testing
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hellbooks

PookyTheMagicalBear
Yukino

Varsoon


Finished Testing
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Raya36, aligned with the
town
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Dunnstral, aligned with the
town
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Elbirn, aligned with the
town
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Test Events Log
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:19 pm

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Game Rules


Spoiler: Common Rules
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All site rules apply here.
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No quoting any private mod communication, including your role PM, or contents of private topics. This includes referring or alluding to specific time stamps on any private communication. You can paraphrase.
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Do not discuss this game outside game related threads while it is ongoing. This includes contacting players of the game via Private Messaging or other outside communication.
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Do not discuss other ongoing games in this game thread unless the mechanics of that game allow such (I would appreciate it if you let me know in advance if this is the case as well).
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When dealing with rules infractions or other problems, I will always seek the solution that is least invasive to the game state. That said, infractions may result in anything from a warning to your slot being force replaced or you being modkilled, depending on the severity and nature of the offense.
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Please be respectful of all other players as well as myself.
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No angle shooting. Play in the spirit of the game. I shouldn't need to clarify this further.

Spoiler: Game Conduct Rules
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My color is
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Questions for me may be made either via PM or in the thread. If you ask a question in thread, please ensure you bold your question and begin with it with the tag "@mod" so I am more likely to notice it.
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Please do not use provable randomness (such as the dice tag) in thread. You may SAY you used randomization, but not prove it.
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Do not make use of external websites as part of the game. If it can't be embedded into a post on the forums, it's not allowed. This includes resources such as Google Documents. You may use such things for your own reference, but never in conjunction with other players not part of your own slot.
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No ciphers, encryption, extremely small text, or other similar tactics.
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Do not threaten to abandon the game as a response to in game actions. Doing so will result in an immediate force replace.
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Do not attempt to coerce another player into abandoning the game. Doing so will result in an immediate force replace.
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Do not threaten to report other players in order to attempt to influence their actions. If you believe someone is doing something worthy of a report, bring it to the attention of moderators.
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If you notice an error in my moderating, you are free to point it out in the game thread. However, please also message me privately so that I notice and can amend the error as soon as possible.
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PLEASE do not make reference to meta formed in other games still ongoing, no matter how discreet you attempt to be about it.
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Do not make reference in game to any sort of moderator communication with the exception of game mechanics related communication.

Spoiler: Inactivity and V/LA (Vacation/Limited Access) Guidelines
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This game features dynamic deadlines. As such, prod timers will also be dynamic. They will start at 48 hours of inactivity, but at some point be changed to 36 and then 24 hours of inactivity.
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If you receive more than three prods, I will immediately begin seeking replacement.
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Please inform me
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If you have regular V/LA periods (such as being unavailable on weekends) please inform me pre-game and I will take this into account.

Spoiler: Gameplay Rules
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This setup is open. There are 5 Vanilla Townies and 2 Mafia Goons.
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This game is nightless. There are no night kills.
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Each day will begin with a Nomination phase, in which a nominator is voted on by the town. Once selected, the nominator nominates a pre-determined, publicly announced number of members of the town to be considered for execution.
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Once the nominator has made their decisions, the town must vote on someone from the nominators list, in addition to the nominator themselves, to be executed.
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Deadlines for each phase (nominator and execution) will be equal to the number of living players in the game.
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Deadline modifications not ordained by the mechanics of the game itself will be granted rarely, only to accommodate for replacements, or in other extreme circumstances such as site downtime.
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Votes must be made with either
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Nominators and executions are based on majority. As soon as a majority of alive players votes for a single slot, they will immediately be executed.
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If no majority is achieved by the end of a phase, plurality rules will come into effect. In the event of no clear plurality, the mafia team will be asked to privately break the tie.
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The mafia team has a private topic in which they can talk at any time.

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieYou are
town
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You win when all members of the mafia have been removed from the test.


Here is the game thread.

Please respond to this PM with your alignment.

Mafia GoonYou are
mafia
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Your partner is ______. You may communicate at any time here: [REDACTED]

You win when your faction controls 50% of the town.


Here is the game thread.

Please respond to this PM with your alignment.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:42 pm

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Testing will begin in earnest once all subjects have acknowledged their alignment.

Until then, feel free to mingle with your fellow test subjects.


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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:48 pm

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nominate raya36
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:01 pm

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nominate dunnstral
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:03 pm

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Nominate varsoon
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm

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honestly what a cowardly choice by yara to just nominate first post
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:11 pm

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Oh wait nominator vote is good nominate ME
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:13 pm

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HEAL: DkKoba HEAL:
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:13 pm

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HEAL: DkKoba
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:14 pm

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i dont recognize ANY of you so im nervous
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:34 pm

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Hello!
Nominate: DkKoba
why would mafia want to be nominated :?
im gonna put some dirt in your eyE
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:21 pm

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I don't think the game has started so we can't vote.
Does this setup have any strategies in particular?

I think we should nominate a scummy player and not worry about who they pick. That player gets a chance to outline thoughts in a way to help redirect us in the case the we are wrong. Or if we nominate scum and they pick a whole bunch of obvious towns they just die anyway because we already scum read them in the first place.

Compare this to picking a clear town player who happens to not agree on consensus scum, then we just are out of luck.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:23 pm

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At the time of my confirmation 5/7 confirmed.
Meaning 1 player confirmed and decided not to post.

I think that indicates scum being in Varsono and Hellbook
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:21 pm

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In post 12, Yukino wrote:I don't think the game has started so we can't vote.
Does this setup have any strategies in particular?

I think we should nominate a scummy player and not worry about who they pick. That player gets a chance to outline thoughts in a way to help redirect us in the case the we are wrong. Or if we nominate scum and they pick a whole bunch of obvious towns they just die anyway because we already scum read them in the first place.

Compare this to picking a clear town player who happens to not agree on consensus scum, then we just are out of luck.
I agree with nominating the scummiest player.
Assuming we lynch at random, that puts us at 43% win, I think?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:23 pm

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If we manage to guess two towns, we shoot up to 90%.
My guess right now is Yukino and DkKoba
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:26 pm

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If we're just using the nominate as a gated lynch, what's to keep up from just lynching the nominated player every time?
@MOD: If a player is nominated, exactly what happens? How long does the nominator have to pick lynch nominees? How long of a day phase will there be before and after the Nomination goes through?

As players, we should probably instigate a certain grace period after nomination just so we can actually get player interaction before AND after a nomination goes through.
As little as I want to render this a normal mountainous/nightless, it does seem in our best interest to kinda just do that.
Otherwise, we're up to speculation on every nomination ticket.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:42 pm

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In post 16, Varsoon wrote:If we're just using the nominate as a gated lynch, what's to keep up from just lynching the nominated player every time?
Nothing

There's very little strategy involved with the current setup due to the tweaks made, which is unfortunate

I wanted to give it to Raya to see what he thinks early on
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:43 pm

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I don't even like to lynch at random when it's beneficial to do so, at 43% that would be actively detrimental

Of course, it's never truly random. Somebody has to tell us who was 'randomly' chosen, and then you have to account for 'what if that person is mafia'
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:45 pm

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To clarify, my stance is:

We are free to nominate whoever on day 1 and lynch someone they choose, and maybe do the same on day 2, but after that (or even on day 2) we should nominate who we want to lynch
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:48 pm

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I want to engage with the mechanic of the game rather than treating it like it doesn't exist.
Feels against the spirit of the setup to do anything else.
At which point the real question is this:
Do we nominate a global town-read or do we nominate a global scum-read?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:48 pm

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Also, hey, Dunnstral, it's nice to play with you again after my very long hiatus from the site.
I hope life has treated you well and it's reassuring to see a familiar face in this game.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:49 pm

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In post 20, Varsoon wrote:Do we nominate a global town-read or do we nominate a global scum-read?
I don't think either of those should exist on day 1 before the first nomination

For other days, just go with the scum-read and then lynch them. Giving it to the townread adds extra variables where that person goes rogue and nominates whatever
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:51 pm

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In post 11, Nash wrote: Hello!
Nominate: DkKoba
why would mafia want to be nominated :?
Do you think it's likely that we end up lynching the nominee on day 1?
Varsoon wrote:Also, hey, Dunnstral, it's nice to play with you again after my very long hiatus from the site.
I hope life has treated you well and it's reassuring to see a familiar face in this game.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:56 pm

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You don't think we can come to solid consensus on who town and scum are as of D1?
I'm still quite fuzzy on what the deadlines are, don't know that they're in the opening rules crawl or I'm blind.
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