Free Love

[Auro]

Presumably he's revealing and discussing these reads with his lover. It's not an approach that's bound to make friends with the rest of the game, but one I can totally see town taking.

I also agree with his meta-read on Maria giving more effs as scum. His defense of her wasn't that she won't quickhammer, but that it's not scummy to put someone at L-1 in a world where quickhammers aren't a thing.

[Klick]

UNVOTE:

Yesterday I was feeling good about unwnd's posting, talked about it with Bella and came to the conclusion that I shouldn't feel that good about it, and I've woken up and he keeps making me think he's town. I don't feel like unwnd is trying very hard to be townread at all, which would for sure be on his mind if he were scum.

[Klick]

You should probably actually give reads in the thread at some point though unwnd, this game does need in-thread content

[Klick]

I think facilitating conversation with your partner is probably more important in the end than trying to convince others what you think, because if one of you goes down then yeah

I agree that it's important, but not to the neglect of posting in the game

[Klick]

Klick what are your thoughts on the cryptic pair?

unwnd probtown. I get that his posting isn't particularly helpful, but I don't think it's scummy.
Maria... meh? I'm a sucker for pocketing. I don't find the L-1 vote as suspicious as I let on. Null, not notable enough to continue pressing right now in contrast with unwnd being town.

[Klick]

Like do you actually think this is the strat unwnd decides to rock up into this game with? It's questionable town play but even more questionable scum play

[Klick]

He - says Maria's vote is fine BC she won't quick hammer (which is illogical and a weird way to defend her), tells us he has secret reads that he doesn't want to share in the thread and seems low-key just anti game progression

Well, for me. What's to like?

Which of these things makes him more likely to have gotten a red PM?

[Klick]

VOTE: Auro

[Auro]

VOTE: Auro

Given you've expressed nearly the same sentiments about unwnd, and seem to agree partially about MariaR - explain?

[Klick]

I'm working hard on not townreading people too hard when they agree with me, that's gotten me totally snowed in two games recently
You do agree with the unwnd read, but you haven't really pushed against it in a way that convinces me you're not fine with the wagon still being dominant.

Outside of that, neither you nor Ari have done anything to inspire confidence in me yet.

[Bellaphant]

I just don't think 'i don't wanna progress the game' is super Towny. *shrug* . Your reaction is kind of odd but I don't think it's scum!you defending scum!him

[Klick]

I'm a very strong proponent of 'if it makes zero sense as scum, it's probably town' as a townhunting method. And I don't really think the inverse is valid most of the time because way more things are plausible town actions than plausible scum actions. Something about being 50% responsible for the actions of your entire faction makes you play particularly safe most of the time.

[Bellaphant]

I mean, some people just find scum (or mafia) hard, but I understand.

[Auro]

Does this inspire confidence, Klick?

[Auro]

you're not fine with the wagon still being dominant.

I'm fine with the wagon, I'm sure it won't be quickhammered... oh wait

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

Hm.

@auro it was the cryptic ness I’ve been talking about that I didn’t like but I agree with klick that it’s questionable scumplay.

[Bee like Nancy]

[Bee like Nancy]

[Bee like Nancy]

Spoiler:

Day 1, VC 4

With 8 alive it takes 5 to execute.

Auro (4) -

Bellaphant, unwnd, Klick, MariaR

MariaR (2) -

Auro

Klick (2) -

unwnd (0) -

Klick (0) -

Aristophanes (0) -

Bellaphant (0) -

The Bulge (0) -

notscience (0) -

Not Voting (3) -

- Aristophanes, The Bulge, notscience

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-15 00:41:00)

[MariaR]

VOTE: Auro

I like this wagon the most right now shame someone beat me to it

[Bellaphant]

How do you mean maria.?

[Auro]

Unwnd has been sharing his reads in the PT, right?

[notscience]

No comment on your wagon, Auro?

[unwnd]

I just don't think 'i don't wanna progress the game' is super Towny. *shrug* . Your reaction is kind of odd but I don't think it's scum!you defending scum!him

I think the game will naturally progress no matter what is posted. I just got done with a scum game of mine so my mind has refreshed on a few things, but to impart the thread with some ""wisdom"" I often felt like a slow game didn't benefit me at all. I enjoyed when town pretty much kept lynching each other and all I had to do was back them; Powerwolfing etc especially doesn't work in this setup. While tells and behavior of myself aren't ubiquitous, I still think it's worth noting.

[unwnd]

That being said, I refer to what I said before

what does it say about the state of the game if it still remains at this pace? We've barely begun to leave RVS and the game has been officially open for about 1 and a half days. Granted there is only 9 people but from I see only about 4 have had anything worthwhile to say