Micro 997: Superb Idea Mafia - GAME OVER

[Momrangal]

BG 3p role
Hider 3p role

Defender (the BG 3P role) wins if they prevent a kill
Hider wins like an SK

[Titus]

Set up is confirmed 6:2:1.

Where is this?

[Momrangal]

Game Specific:
Randomly generate 10 numbers from between 1 and the most recent post number in the thread.
6 of the posts: Add town role to the setup.
2 of the posts: Add mafia role to the setup.
2 of the posts: Send both of the third party roles to a random player. This player will choose which third party role they want.
Setup is made. Rest of Role PMs are sent out. Game begins.

[Titus]

Can you link me to the subperb idea thread? I need it to follow your post.

[Momrangal]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85630

[Momrangal]

There are 67 possible 3P roles in the game

18 of them have survivor wincons

13 roles that have an SK wincon

7 3P roles that work similar to a lyncher

11 jester akin roles

And 17 3P roles that have different type of wincon.

And one that can't even win

Three of those in the last group I know for a fact doesn't exist.

Free spirit doesn't exist and brawler doesn't exist. None of the jester roles exist in this game, and the survivor who doesn't get a role PM doesn't exist in the game because if it did, we would have probably have seen it when the person has checked in.

That leaves us with 53 possible 3p roles that can be in the game

[WhemeStar]

Mom is scum

[WhemeStar]

Sad.

[Momrangal]

Two of the survivor akin roles can effectively work for town, the guardian angel is conditional, however to the angels target being town.

One of the lyncher roles can explicitly townside

Otherwise, of the 17 roles with a different type of wincon four of them can explicitly town side. Two of them are explicitly scum sided. Most of the remaining 11 are all more or less revolved around a single person, be it protecting that person or surviving with that person. A few others are dependant on who is the first one to be elimiated.

This means, of the 53 possible 3p roles that Whemestar can be

7 of the 53 works for town

2 of the 53 that works for scum

13 out of 53 that wins independently

And 11 that can win with either or alignment

[Momrangal]

And now I've hurt my head and will probably only speak gibberish from here. I feel like I opened up the game but yeah.

The option to leash Whemestar is real here, and make him work for town or he faces the option that he doesn't get to see his actual wincon here

[DkKoba]

leashing nah fuck that
VOTE: whemestar

leash em to the grave

[DkKoba]

vivors are spicy traitors that have to live to win

[WhemeStar]

What are leashes?

[WhemeStar]

If I was a third party why would I counterclaim a third party claim this early

[WhemeStar]

When things don’t make sense and people are making things up/trying to hard they are scum

[DkKoba]

When things don’t make sense and people are making things up/trying to hard they are scum

thats a very basic way of viewing the game - there's clearly a thought process that went through mom's posts. why are you just discrediting her when she does have reasoning? what did she make up?

90% of the early game is bullshitting reads until you get reactions that can be converted into real reads.

so this analysis is frankly a bit bunk and omgus'y.

[WhemeStar]

Mom got caught and is trying to distract by making a fake third party case on me when it would make 0 sense for a third party to counter claim someone

[WhemeStar]

Anyways I’m not worried about any wagon on me

[Momrangal]

Why did you say I was scum instead of 3p?

If there is a reason you know without a doubt that jester doesn't exist in the game, I'm down to hear it

[WhemeStar]

Why did you say I was scum instead of 3p?

If there is a reason you know without a doubt that jester doesn't exist in the game, I'm down to hear it

I was just calling out your bluff because I don't think 3p claims this early.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm town bodyguard, and Whemestar is the real 3p given he was the only one who knew without a doubt that jester didn't exist in this game.

He cannot be a free spirit because that is the 3p role that is attached to my post in the superb idea thread, and I'm inclined to believe he is none of the crazy amount of submitted jester roles in the game.

So the question is, which of these roles does Whemestar have, and what are the odds that Whemestar can townside this game.

It also means that we have effectively one less person to worry about this game so

Well that was an interesting gambit

[Gamma Emerald]

Is there a scum role that would have info about what 3p exists
Because WhemeStar feels like scum with how he responded to momrangal

[WhemeStar]

Regardless why would mom claim her role already? That makes no sense especailly as a BG

[WhemeStar]

Im still on boat of shes trying to sidestep and get attention off of her and onto someone else and my post was an easy pick

[Momrangal]

I just realized my phone auto correct RB to BG