Micro 1002: Dark Waltz III - Game Over!

[Ydrasse]

i'm sorry </3 i don't know what i did frankly but i had fun the brief time in the pt!

[unwnd]

It was a bit of how you interacted with Koba and a bit of this too:

unwnd
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Today at 11:00 PM
a lot of my townreading her was just getting trust
i do that ingame
ill give a townread and try to get people to trust me
even if it doesn't fully match
i mean i definitely had a moment where i did consider her being town as well so it wasn't all diplomatic
but something felt wrong either way
also yes that too
i contemplated sacrifice actually
my problem sometimes is that i think some people do take this game very emotionally right
so part of me was like 'i wont in case ydra is town and they get all sad'
Pooky
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Today at 11:02 PM
aww
you're such a softie

[DkKoba]

Don't be so hard on yourself

Enjoyed playing with everyone, what I said to Koba wasn't right even if they were scum in the end. I generally don't see people that way but I had some spite well up because the way you play sometimes just doesn't match with how I do. It's nothing personal though, would like to apologize regardless

i accept -

i was playing sacrificial in a way too while trying to seem like i was trying NOT to get limmed in order to make ydrasse semi clear due to the nightless nature of the setup.

[Firebringer]

I definitely had a lot of fun with this game
Enjoyed this game much more than my average games might have been because I was scum

And there was even some brief moments I thought “wow maybe I won’t die” lol but alas didn’t happen

Good job to ydrasse and Harley for the carry I hope I didn’t weigh too much

[Ydrasse]

It was a bit of how you interacted with Koba and a bit of this too:

unwnd
—
Today at 11:00 PM
a lot of my townreading her was just getting trust
i do that ingame
ill give a townread and try to get people to trust me
even if it doesn't fully match
i mean i definitely had a moment where i did consider her being town as well so it wasn't all diplomatic
but something felt wrong either way
also yes that too
i contemplated sacrifice actually
my problem sometimes is that i think some people do take this game very emotionally right
so part of me was like 'i wont in case ydra is town and they get all sad'
Pooky
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Today at 11:02 PM
aww
you're such a softie

aw, unwnd !!! <3

i wouldn't have been upset by it frankly; the time that i got emotional this game was something else, just being frustrated because i felt i had done stuff right and yet was still a contender somehow to die, which was just a demoralizing moment which ended up with me actually getting upset bc i felt i had wasted my time somehow with effort, which is dumb , but i wouldn't have ever gotten sad for you just... playing the game, you know?

[unwnd]

While I wasn't scum I see what you mean, and I feel like that one response you made to me about your emotions (even as scum) was probably true right? Like I told Pooky though don't mistake my intentions I just wanted everyone to enjoy themselves so we could have a sweaty tryhard game

That's all yeah

[OkaPoka]

yeah i would've been upset too ydrasse. i pretty much picked and tried to force you for all the wrong reasons (i wanted to cover my bases if fire was somehow town), and getting scumread for the wrong reasons is pretty annoying as scum but being forced up for the wrong reasons is probably run it down mid worthy.

[Firebringer]

Also think this game leaned in too hard to give scum ways to win. Felt like we could just instant win at so many stages. Felt it was too strong scum favored.

I mean we could get rekt very fast too but like it never felt like that was reasonably likely

[OkaPoka]

ehh it is scum favored but town has so much room for counterplay where its fine. it would be an absolute sweat fest for town to even remotely have a chance at winning but thats what makes playing town fun for me at least

[Firebringer]

I told pooky I thought there was like a 60 percent chance we just win at first pairing stage cause town didn’t get it together, glad I was wrong but it felt close

[Ydrasse]

While I wasn't scum I see what you mean, and I feel like that one response you made to me about your emotions (even as scum) was probably true right? Like I told Pooky though don't mistake my intentions I just wanted everyone to enjoy themselves so we could have a sweaty tryhard game

That's all yeah

about my emotions? yeah, everything i feel is ~real~, for better or worse; i felt upset this game because i was upset... as scum, which was dumb i guess, i felt like i shouldn't have been so frustrated over it all, and probably shouldn't have posted, but i very much Don't make up how i feel and it's just a matter of how i post during it/use it. there are probably small things in like, how i post it i guess that are AI but in general i feel a lot as either alignment when i'm invested
'

[OkaPoka]

that was my biggest worry immediately which is why i tried to dictator the game state because at least i know im town

[OkaPoka]

i probably should never do that again

[Firebringer]

And I was trying to help town pair tbh

[OkaPoka]

this setup has shades of baton pass

goat tier category of setups

[DkKoba]

town gets three chosen eliminations at once - the associatives off that first elimination should be very well suited to help solve the game afterwards if you didn't mess up (which on average you shouldn't) - which i recognized right off the bat and realized bussing was good if i can find a natural one.

[OkaPoka]

yep, batonpass esque strategy right there

koba u absolutely sweaty god i love you

[Ydrasse]

I would take a loss over that bus because i am trying my hardest to convince people i can have fun and not care as town too !!!!!!!!!!!!

[OkaPoka]

not sweaty rip

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I was going for a setup that would be scum-sided but winnable for town with tense moments at every decision point.

The room for error was incredibly small and one mistake could pretty much lose the game immediately for the town-side.

I was very happy with how it ended up playing out with the town having multiple chances at forcing a victory and the scum battling back to salvage their position through cunning counterplay.

For example there was a real chance the "deathpool" would've contained two scum if Oka had forced Ydra/Fire into the "Deathpool" but the scum team did end up pairing up with Hectic instead and somehow managed to get Oka paired with Fire ? Which was very mindboggling :3.

Even after removing oka, fire, mom, the town had a good shot of winning if the UTRs in unwnd/noraa had paired up but the scum did a brilliant job of getting paired up with the most widely townread players instead.


I think both sides played fantastically well and it was a hard fought / well deserved victory.


btw the "deathpool" thing was a stroke of brilliance on Oka's part and something I did not see coming at all haha :3

[DkKoba]

I would take a loss over that bus because i am trying my hardest to convince people i can have fun and not care as town too !!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry i couldn't tell you the extent of the plan in fear of like causing ingenuine reactions

mostly a sac though - i didnt try to mimic my townplay as much here.

[DkKoba]

I was going for a setup that would be scum-sided but winnable for town with tense moments at every decision point.

The room for error was incredibly small and one mistake could pretty much lose the game immediately for the town-side.

I was very happy with how it ended up playing out with the town having multiple chances at forcing a victory and the scum battling back to salvage their position through cunning counterplay.

For example there was a real chance the "deathpool" would've contained two scum if Oka had forced Ydra/Fire into the "Deathpool" but the scum team did end up pairing up with Hectic instead and somehow managed to get Oka paired with Fire ? Which was very mindboggling :3.

Even after removing oka, fire, mom, the town had a good shot of winning if the UTRs in unwnd/noraa had paired up but the scum did a brilliant job of getting paired up with the most widely townread players instead.


I think both sides played fantastically well and it was a hard fought / well deserved victory.

yes!! that overall is the scumplan is to get paired with hard town in order to reduce chances of dying - harley and ydrasse did great there to refuse LHF pairs :3

[OkaPoka]

yeah i do have to blame myself for pairing with fire there. i played right into scum's hands whether they intended to or not and that probably costed us the game.

[OkaPoka]

and getting the dream of ydra/fire/mom was never happening really. by the time i came up with that solution i kinda lost control of the thread

[OkaPoka]

not pairing unwnd with noraa is arguably a mistake but its a forgivable one. its not something you really look for unless you've played enough dance games and engaged with the theory of how to play dance optimally. that one was on me as well. i probably should've explained it.