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[RationalMadman]

Again, I cannot believe for a single second that this is ALL that Robert would contribute as town here. That's it? "I'm vanilla yeah whatever guys"

What reads? No anger? No panic? Just "I'm vanilla do whacha wanna"

[Agent of Chaos]

Same for scum.

[RationalMadman]

No, not same at all. Actually it makes perfect sense he magically shows up as scum if he was barely paying attention, his partner may well have warned him.

His partner could easily be you, considering you were online to instantly unvote as he outed.

I don't know what exactly you unvoted for, nor why you voted him if you had no basis. I am sure of my read more than ever and your behaviour here is the first time I have seen you break out of character with your trolling. Suddenly you are concerned and defensive over another player and pushing hard on a sudden townread on him.

If you got a better idea, go ahead and convey it. If Robert is town, he clearly is dedicated to being pretty useless this game in effort levels, I don't want to risk outing another player's role at all and if he's town the loss of a lazy vanilla is not an issue at all in terms of that the only better outcome is lynching mafia/wolves here.

[Agent of Chaos]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Carbon-14

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].

@mod

Do mafia/ furries have daytalk?

[RationalMadman]

I assumed they did because it mentions a private thread for personal thoughts then says Mafia/wolves already have one. Will be useful to clarify anyway.

[RationalMadman]

Btw Vander easily did it instead of you, as could anyone eale pretending to be away or Robert himself but your reaction here is strangely concerned vs what you've been all game. You honestly tow read Robert's way of claiming and reacting? What are yoyr actual reads please tell some. Do you townread Enchant as well (as I do)?

[RationalMadman]

Else not eale

[RationalMadman]

I assumed they did because it mentions a private thread for personal thoughts then says Mafia/wolves already have one. Will be useful to clarify anyway.

Meaning in 'action submissions' above. I didn't assume the PT turns off or whatever during the dayphase.

[Agent of Chaos]

I think scum tend to be more responsible than town. Townie "throwing" a game by claiming under pressure is somewhat common, scum not that so.

Enchant is fairly towny! I am trolling a lot, so from experience I know people who defend me are usually town. Scum just take low hanging fruit.

[RationalMadman]

I don't think this vote is wrong byt hypothetically who is the team if Robert actually is vanilla?

I think if Robert is town here, AoC is extremely towny because of faes reaction to Robert outing and how fae asked if they have a meeting.

[RationalMadman]

That set of reactions after Robert outs is not what scum would do vs town Robert imo

[RationalMadman]

But is could be what a partner would do and J don't townread Robert at all.

[RationalMadman]

Sorry for these typos, I suck as smartphone typing but try to do it fast anyway.

[RationalMadman]

For me, Robert is scum and the partner is possibly another lurker, explaining why he cares so little. Alternatively, Robert just doesn't care and the partner is active and compensating (that shines a scummy light even on myself, I admit).

[RationalMadman]

If Robert is town, I'm almost definitely certain that the hydra is scum because it appears the scumteam has a lurker among them, since the vote on Robert only gained momentum from two of the most active players voting him after I did. I don't for a single second see an Enchant+AoC team viable both due to interactions and due to what I said about if Robert is town, AoC is town.

[RationalMadman]

I honestly support pushing this elimination through and the flip, even if vanilla, helps us determine many things next DP (but I predict I'll be dead).

[Vanderscamp]

May by a bluff.
Though, for mafia it would be better to just fake reads!
Not sure about werewolves.

RM, I think Robert is not towny and I wouldn't lose sleep over a flip there, but I think it says a lot that you are ignoring stuff like this from AoC that is, at best, pointless trolling, but your response to a VT claim from Robert is that it is a "clever bluff" and not believable.
I don't think AoC is towny and I really don't understand why you do.

[Vanderscamp]

The one thing I actually like from AoC is asking about whether scum have day chat.
I'd be okay flipping Robert after a VT claim given that but I'm also not interested in doing so before the two other players have said essentially nothing contribute in some way.

[Robert M Hunter]

The scum (aka RationalMadman) has taken total control of the narrative in this game. It's easy to go after novice/low-activity players during the day, and night kill the more active townies. The scum isn't going after Not_Mafia because that player won't respond back at all, so there is no reward persecuting them - but they are seemingly worried about Not_Mafia hammering, though.

He posts a lot, some of it is game strategy, calling active players town, and less active players scum - for some reason keeps saying AoC is trolling? Most of his posts are complete garbage filler, but hey. That's how he keeps tight control of the narrative.

VOTE: RationalMadman

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[Vanderscamp]

The scum (aka RationalMadman) has taken total control of the narrative in this game. It's easy to go after novice/low-activity players during the day, and night kill the more active townies. The scum isn't going after Not_Mafia because that player won't respond back at all, so there is no reward persecuting them - but they are seemingly worried about Not_Mafia hammering, though.

He posts a lot, some of it is game strategy, calling active players town, and less active players scum - for some reason keeps saying AoC is trolling? Most of his posts are complete garbage filler, but hey. That's how he keeps tight control of the narrative.

VOTE: RationalMadman

Never mind, VOTE: Robert M Hunter
I'm on the bandwagon

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

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[RationalMadman]

UNVOTE: Robert M Hunter

[RationalMadman]

Robert, if all you see in my gameplay is that I have steered the game and claimed AoC is trolling, then what is my agenda exactly and what would I have gained by voting Not_Mafia as a towny in your eyes?

[RationalMadman]

Also, who is my partner and who isn't, under your reads?