Micro 1042: Meme Wars | Fin!

[Pavowski]

3 scum does not make any kind of sense in a 9 player game from a balance perspective (to me), but it also kind of doesn't matter right this minute

[Val89]

"balanced, but a little swingy"

We are in danger of swinging in on that mechtalk you yourself said you wanted to avoid, but we've had two wagons today, both resulting in PR claims (all be them X-shot). Putting aside the fact I thought at least one was probably fake, this is obviously shaping up a PR heavy game. 3 scum could balance for that, while being swingy and you can't tell me with the way slots have been acting, that doesn't make more sense. I've kept my mouth shut so far for reasons probably simular to your own, and I can't comment on the normals of 5-8 years ago because I wasn't around at that time. If there is potential town (and I'm still townleaning on your slot) are labouring on a illusion it has to be 2 scum, I think now the time is to say somehing, and you have to explain why bugspray implied 3 scum, although admittedly that was also post-claim.

[MegAzumarill]

3 scum means we lose if we mislim d2 and d1

Unless we have an abundance of clears from n1, it's scumsided to the extreme then.

ergo there is 2 scum

[Val89]

That's what "swingy" means, no? You can go very quick from winning to losing? I would say an "abundance of clears", or at least semi-clears, is something that is possible from a town-PR heavy setup, given what we know already.

In any case, I conceede the point that 2 scum mean bugsprays actions do not rule out a Pooky/Esooa team. I'm struggling to tally Esooa's declaration that she would vote you over Pooky with the townread I've had on that slot. Pooky has basically scum claimed at this point to my eyes. What is Esooa saying with that? That Pooky has good cause to meta case based on that Happy face game and she is scum? It makes no sense.

[Esooa]

Town plays bad all the time

[Esooa]

I think Pooky believes what they're saying, not that it's legitimate

[Val89]

How have you evaluated that, when Pooky refuses to tell us what it is they are saying, exactly?

[Pavowski]

I dunno how we're 12 hours from deadline and nobody posted overnight, cool cool

I'll be around off and on for the rest of the day but ... yeah we gotta want it

[Pavowski]

I still think meg's a good vote but I am slowly accepting that it won't happen today despite a few people expressing doubt on the slot

I would rather not lim Pooky today

[Save The Dragons]

would people compromise on bugspray

[Prism]

I actually skimmed earlier this morning and 180'd on Three/Pooky so iuno

[Pavowski]

would people compromise on bugspray

There's nobody voting bugspray right now, that strikes me as a tough sell given the clock. You think the votes are there?

[Save The Dragons]

that's why i'm asking

[Pavowski]

I could vote there.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1-13

PookyTheMagicalBear

(3): Save The Dragons, bugspray, Val89

MegAzumarill

(2): Prism, Pavowski

Dwlee99

(2): Esooa, MegAzumarill

Val89

(2): Dwlee99, PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: January 29, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-01-28 21:00:00)

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[Prism]

VOTE: Pooky

YOLO

[Prism]

That's E-1

[Prism]

Eh nah let's not YOLO I skimmed Three again fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I just go back/forth on their justification & defensiveness to Dragons

UNVOTE:

[Val89]

As far as compromise wagons go, I think bugspray absolutely has the best chance of hitting scum, regardless of number. Not sure it's entirely nessacary given 535 and Meg's indication they would hammer a Pooky wagon though.

Pedit: There you go. No need.

[Val89]

Or perhaps not. My answer on bugspray is still yes, though, if that wasn't clear. I'm not entirely sure what is giving people pause on Pooky, though.

[MegAzumarill]

bugspray feels like the easiest to sort later out of Pooky, Dwlee, bugspray, which ate the three I'm most willing to vote today

I'll return few hours before dl and will likely hammer anything in those three that's sitting at e-1

[Pavowski]

Vote Count 1-13

PookyTheMagicalBear

(3): Save The Dragons, bugspray, Val89

MegAzumarill

(2): Prism, Pavowski

Dwlee99

(2): Esooa, MegAzumarill

Val89

(2): Dwlee99, PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Top shelf meme

Deadline: January 29, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-01-28 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Pavowski]

Omg what a mess I made of that post. I was just trying to note that the meme was excellent.

[Dwlee99]

I might hammer pooky just for the meme but I'd still prefer val lim methinks

[Val89]

I don't really want to do Dwlee today. I'm certainly not townreading there, but out of all the slots on my radar, that's the one where I can see potential for town who just isn't engaging, and, particulary as it seems Esooa's last posting seemed to suggest she was advocating for some sort of policy lim rather than being sure they were scum, it's a slot I would want to leave for now. I am confident the mystery of their alignment isn't going to remain hazy forever.

I still stand by this one, as far a Dwlee is concerned. I think we had a demonstration of the difference earlier in the day. Dwlee scumread me, but still engaged with me on rhe issue of their bugspray read. Pooky scumread me, and decided that was a convenient excuse therefore not to bother engaging with respect to their Esooa read.

I might be perhaps biased because I was the target of corrosponding scumread, but it might be someone else later on, and I know which of the two I think the rest of the player list will get a better read on going forwards based on that difference in behavior alone.