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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:10 am

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Yeah, essentially everything you've just said while I was typing up that answer.

Something hinky is going on, but to my mind, that hinkyness has to be oscar winning scum theatre in StD/three, and a fairly safe fake claim (obviously scum did have some RBing power) than Meg essentially saying "thanks but no thanks" to a free win.

Pedit: No, I can't explain the N1 kill, and that's why I've thought decoding what happened N1 is key to this game, but at this point, everything that was going to come out has come out. Anyone holding anything back at this point is handing scum the win, and they have to know that, surely.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:13 am

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I don't think it's a free win to accept your jailkeep claim.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:31 am

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OK, well my whole thinking about why it's StD revolves around that conclusion. Talk to me about it:

"Val you jailkept me last night, correct?
That would explain a lot"

"Correct"

"OK, that will be why I got no result then. I am novice <Whatever>"

"So, as I was saying before, MegA is cleared by the fact I , Essoa is the only other clear because I got no result to my cop check Dwlee N1; maybe Dwlee is asetic, maybe StD actually RBed me n1 and is lying, let's flip both of them and solve this game, gg"

There wasn't ever going to be circumstances I knew I was blocked and I didn't actually have a clear on Meg, and I accept that as actually having happened, unless (and only when) Meg tells me as such - as they did; Meg must have done the blocking, or have some other power that means my JK was ineffective and would have known they had an out the second I said I had JK'd them.

Even if someone points out "you could have been blocked", was there a risk we go for Meg? Even if someone decides I am falsely clearing Meg, then that makes me scum, and then my flip essentially reinforces MegA being 'cleared'; I don't see a world MegA gets flipped after that conversation. Maybe I do, followed by you or StD, or vice versa, but not Meg. Why doesn't Meg accept the clear when I can't see a way we would have had time to deduce it was inaccurate without the information they themselves provided?

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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:33 am

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I would go "if you were roleblocked N1 you could be N2 as well, and meg could be a strongman"
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:41 am

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And I would have said "hmm; that's a that awful lot of co-incidences to explain why Meg is scum rather than you; vote: Dwlee". And if I had gotten what I wanted, you would have flipped town, and Meg would have a fairly obvious push in "Val has led two mislims now!". My checker shot isn't going to do anything the night before ELO.

Remember, the second effort of Megs claim was not only to unclear themselves, but to clear you. I had serious doubts on your slot myself until that point.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:49 am

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I mean I feel like meg could have been trying to buddy me by clearing me and it just didn't work
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:03 am

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Maybe I am making building a logical bridge too far in assuming Meg would have realised accepting my 'clear' would almost guarantee a win, even knowing I would likley have never voted Meg following that and gone to my own death defending them, I accept it's possible it wasn't mmeadately obvious to others as I think it is.

I mean, I also accept that if I am wrong about StD then it is Meg, but if you are asking me to endorse the lim of my second, by orders of magnitude, second choice and thereby setting myself up as the game winning mislim to my first scumread, I'm here to tell you that I won't.

The only game I've actually cared about losing is one in which I was the ELO mislim, after sussing the correct scum D1 and then dropping that read D2 after I thought other players were scummier, because I think I was probably a big reason why that game was lost. I'm not keen to repeat that exact trajectory here, thanks.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:05 am

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Wait I already hammered meg lol this conversation is pointless
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:05 am

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@Esooa, you should probably vote STD if it comes to tomorrow. Let's hope it doesn't and I was right.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:16 am

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"lol".

I've never wanted to be proven wrong as much as do right now. What a roller-coaster.
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:18 am

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At least 2 town voted for meg. Therefore we are right. :)
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:34 am

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Vote Count 3-4
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(3): Save The Dragons, Esooa, Dwlee99
Save The Dragons
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None.


With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.



Deadline: February 14, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-02-13 21:00:00)

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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:38 am

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MegAzumarill was a
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Night 3 begins now! All night actions are due no later than (expired on 2022-02-13 09:00:00)!
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:23 am

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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:24 am

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Vote Count 4-1
Day 4 Begins!


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Day 4: Star Wars vs Star Trek!



Not Voting
(3): Save the Dragons, Val89, Esooa

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.



Deadline: February 21, Midnight US Eastern Time.

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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:16 am

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I want to say that there is no hard feelings, and I understand you are just playing to wincon; but it's hard not to dislike you right now. :eek:

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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:43 am

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VOTE: Val

i don't understand how someone who was town could have come to the conclusions that meg came to.

clever trying to crumb a role you didn't have

as scum i don't bus the jailkeeper from the beginning of D1 and I don't claim a role so damn early.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:26 pm

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Vote Count 4-2
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Save The Dragons
(1): Val89
Val89
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(1): Esooa

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.



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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:25 pm

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In post 983, Dwlee99 wrote:@Esooa, you should probably vote STD if it comes to tomorrow. Let's hope it doesn't and I was right.
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well I'm voting here 80% of the time but I'm going to reread the game
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:00 pm

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well I've read some but I still hate mechanics

Can both of you claim your role and all night actions and why you made those again so I don't need to keep going back to it
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:01 pm

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1 shot RB

N1 - Esooa
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:40 pm

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In post 987, fferyllt wrote:
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Night 3 begins now! All night actions are due no later than (expired on 2022-02-13 09:00:00)!
what does novice mean
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:42 pm

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novice means they can't act N1
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:53 pm

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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:56 pm

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