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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:27 am

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In post 1073, Xayah wrote:
In post 1071, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1069, Xayah wrote:
In post 1063, Ausuka wrote:I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Of course I wouldn't necessarily expect Coral to hard townread their scumbuddy but the argument you were making was based on the premise that Coral had a high degree of confidence in this read and therefore it's strange that she changed it over time. Based on what she actually posted I think this interpretation is wrong. Given that I'm not Coral I'm not sure why you're speaking as if I have an ulterior motive in defending her here, unless you think there are three mafia in the game.
Yes, but the thing people are getting stuck on is they're taking:

Coral said it was slightly towny so that's not high confidence
vs
Corals actions in the game that display such high confidence that makes the read change odd.
Give examples
Already did.
I mean those haven't been particularly convincing.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:28 am

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Datisi do you bus often?
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:28 am

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In post 1067, Xayah wrote:
In post 1054, Coral wrote:
In post 1028, Xayah wrote:I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)
I think that this is quite silly especially given that the familiarity
was
explained. The only thing that wasn't explained originally was the context of Ausuka being a Miller in a game that was ongoing at the start of this one.

Using "oh, well of course they're just friends, if only someone had
told
me that, then I would have never suspected them" is extremely weak here and at best indicates that little to no thought was put into the original read, because even if you were only reading this thread, it would take very little effort to figure out that they were friends.
You're saying this like it was the base for my read for the entire game (it wasn't) it was for the
start
of the TMI read and evolved into something else after reading context clues.
No, this doesn't track. If you initially felt it was TMI and that later evolved into a more nuanced take that included the knowledge of them being friends (nuance which you never showed at the time and are only now claiming it existed all along), and that read still persisted all the way to , then
why are you only now saying that you mistook familiarity for TMI
and that you now realizing this caused you to drop your read of there being one wolf in the pair?
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:29 am

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In post 1075, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1073, Xayah wrote:
In post 1071, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1069, Xayah wrote:
In post 1063, Ausuka wrote:I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Of course I wouldn't necessarily expect Coral to hard townread their scumbuddy but the argument you were making was based on the premise that Coral had a high degree of confidence in this read and therefore it's strange that she changed it over time. Based on what she actually posted I think this interpretation is wrong. Given that I'm not Coral I'm not sure why you're speaking as if I have an ulterior motive in defending her here, unless you think there are three mafia in the game.
Yes, but the thing people are getting stuck on is they're taking:

Coral said it was slightly towny so that's not high confidence
vs
Corals actions in the game that display such high confidence that makes the read change odd.
Give examples
Already did.
I mean those haven't been particularly convincing.
See I don't really need to hard convince people because Coral wolf doesn't win the game rn and me going over looks even worse for her. Now if I thought Coral was some lock town villager that I needed to convince I'd try harder
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:30 am

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In post 1076, Xayah wrote:Datisi do you bus often?
depends if i think it's worth it or not. you'll find examples of me both hard defending and bussing partners if you look.

why?
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:31 am

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In post 1076, Xayah wrote:Datisi do you bus often?
yes
not actually skitter.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:31 am

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In post 1072, Xayah wrote:
In post 1070, Coral wrote:
In post 1068, Xayah wrote:
In post 1060, Coral wrote:
In post 1030, Xayah wrote:scamper feels good
In post 1033, Xayah wrote:As long as the Elims are me Meg Coral game ends so shrug.jpg

(Well I need to read Dat more but give me a bit on that)
In post 603, Xayah wrote:If I was to order the murkey pool in order of likelihood to be a wolf it'd prob go scamper>Coral>Galron
You should also probably explain why you're willing to bet the game on a "scamper feels good" given that your most recent read there had them above only Datisi/Ausuka.
Other way around.
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I make alligator shoes. But yeah, other way around.
How is it the other way around? You said in order of likelihood to be a wolf. And then you put scamper first in that order. With a symbol indicating that scamper was greater in likelihood than me and Galron. That means you think they're most likely to be a wolf.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am

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In post 1081, Coral wrote:
In post 1072, Xayah wrote:
In post 1070, Coral wrote:
In post 1068, Xayah wrote:
In post 1060, Coral wrote:
In post 1030, Xayah wrote:scamper feels good
In post 1033, Xayah wrote:As long as the Elims are me Meg Coral game ends so shrug.jpg

(Well I need to read Dat more but give me a bit on that)
In post 603, Xayah wrote:If I was to order the murkey pool in order of likelihood to be a wolf it'd prob go scamper>Coral>Galron
You should also probably explain why you're willing to bet the game on a "scamper feels good" given that your most recent read there had them above only Datisi/Ausuka.
Other way around.
the alligator eats the bigger cookie
I make alligator shoes. But yeah, other way around.
How is it the other way around? You said in order of likelihood to be a wolf. And then you put scamper first in that order. With a symbol indicating that scamper was greater in likelihood than me and Galron. That means you think they're most likely to be a wolf.
I think they mean they got the sign backwards
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am

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That's awfully convenient.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am

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In post 1077, Coral wrote:
In post 1067, Xayah wrote:
In post 1054, Coral wrote:
In post 1028, Xayah wrote:I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)
I think that this is quite silly especially given that the familiarity
was
explained. The only thing that wasn't explained originally was the context of Ausuka being a Miller in a game that was ongoing at the start of this one.

Using "oh, well of course they're just friends, if only someone had
told
me that, then I would have never suspected them" is extremely weak here and at best indicates that little to no thought was put into the original read, because even if you were only reading this thread, it would take very little effort to figure out that they were friends.
You're saying this like it was the base for my read for the entire game (it wasn't) it was for the
start
of the TMI read and evolved into something else after reading context clues.
No, this doesn't track. If you initially felt it was TMI and that later evolved into a more nuanced take that included the knowledge of them being friends (nuance which you never showed at the time and are only now claiming it existed all along), and that read still persisted all the way to , then
why are you only now saying that you mistook familiarity for TMI
and that you now realizing this caused you to drop your read of there being one wolf in the pair?
Once again third time for the people in the back:

The read on one wolf being in them never changed just the reasoning for it did.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:33 am

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In post 1083, Coral wrote:That's awfully convenient.
Not my fault my reads were correct on my null pool (B
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:33 am

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In post 1082, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1081, Coral wrote:
In post 1072, Xayah wrote:
In post 1070, Coral wrote:
In post 1068, Xayah wrote:
In post 1060, Coral wrote:
In post 1030, Xayah wrote:scamper feels good
In post 1033, Xayah wrote:As long as the Elims are me Meg Coral game ends so shrug.jpg

(Well I need to read Dat more but give me a bit on that)
In post 603, Xayah wrote:If I was to order the murkey pool in order of likelihood to be a wolf it'd prob go scamper>Coral>Galron
You should also probably explain why you're willing to bet the game on a "scamper feels good" given that your most recent read there had them above only Datisi/Ausuka.
Other way around.
the alligator eats the bigger cookie
I make alligator shoes. But yeah, other way around.
How is it the other way around? You said in order of likelihood to be a wolf. And then you put scamper first in that order. With a symbol indicating that scamper was greater in likelihood than me and Galron. That means you think they're most likely to be a wolf.
I think they mean they got the sign backwards
Or they were saying in order of
increasing
likelihood
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:34 am

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In post 1084, Xayah wrote:
In post 1077, Coral wrote:
In post 1067, Xayah wrote:
In post 1054, Coral wrote:
In post 1028, Xayah wrote:I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)
I think that this is quite silly especially given that the familiarity
was
explained. The only thing that wasn't explained originally was the context of Ausuka being a Miller in a game that was ongoing at the start of this one.

Using "oh, well of course they're just friends, if only someone had
told
me that, then I would have never suspected them" is extremely weak here and at best indicates that little to no thought was put into the original read, because even if you were only reading this thread, it would take very little effort to figure out that they were friends.
You're saying this like it was the base for my read for the entire game (it wasn't) it was for the
start
of the TMI read and evolved into something else after reading context clues.
No, this doesn't track. If you initially felt it was TMI and that later evolved into a more nuanced take that included the knowledge of them being friends (nuance which you never showed at the time and are only now claiming it existed all along), and that read still persisted all the way to , then
why are you only now saying that you mistook familiarity for TMI
and that you now realizing this caused you to drop your read of there being one wolf in the pair?
Once again third time for the people in the back:

The read on one wolf being in them never changed just the reasoning for it did.
That addresses literally nothing in my post. That point was part of my post, even.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:34 am

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In post 1079, Datisi wrote:
In post 1076, Xayah wrote:Datisi do you bus often?
depends if i think it's worth it or not. you'll find examples of me both hard defending and bussing partners if you look.

why?
I'm trying to track your consistency on the Ph0 Galron read and it looks good if you don't bus often but if you're an omegabusser I have to look at other areas because you look the best off the flip.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:35 am

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See rn I get I'm going over and I do not care about the fact I am going over. I am just trying to block Meg and Coral from going after other people because they need to do that to win the game.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:35 am

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Obviously, that logic does not work if Dat is a wolf (I'd still bet game on GE and scamp villa and you will respect that when you exe me)
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:36 am

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In post 1087, Coral wrote:
In post 1084, Xayah wrote:
In post 1077, Coral wrote:
In post 1067, Xayah wrote:
In post 1054, Coral wrote:
In post 1028, Xayah wrote:I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)
I think that this is quite silly especially given that the familiarity
was
explained. The only thing that wasn't explained originally was the context of Ausuka being a Miller in a game that was ongoing at the start of this one.

Using "oh, well of course they're just friends, if only someone had
told
me that, then I would have never suspected them" is extremely weak here and at best indicates that little to no thought was put into the original read, because even if you were only reading this thread, it would take very little effort to figure out that they were friends.
You're saying this like it was the base for my read for the entire game (it wasn't) it was for the
start
of the TMI read and evolved into something else after reading context clues.
No, this doesn't track. If you initially felt it was TMI and that later evolved into a more nuanced take that included the knowledge of them being friends (nuance which you never showed at the time and are only now claiming it existed all along), and that read still persisted all the way to , then
why are you only now saying that you mistook familiarity for TMI
and that you now realizing this caused you to drop your read of there being one wolf in the pair?
Once again third time for the people in the back:

The read on one wolf being in them never changed just the reasoning for it did.
That addresses literally nothing in my post. That point was part of my post, even.
Reread your post then
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:37 am

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In post 1090, Xayah wrote:Obviously, that logic does not work if Dat is a wolf (I'd still bet game on GE and scamp villa and you will respect that when you exe me)
If you cared about convincing people to respect that then you would give... like, any reasoning whatsoever for why you're so confident on scamper being town.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:38 am

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I am fine being the exe and would rather not waste time on people trying to figure that out and just send me over and instead tell me why Dat or Scamp could be a wolf and I'll think it over

(Srsly will die on GE town and you can flame me post game if that's wrong)
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am

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In post 1080, scamper wrote:
In post 1076, Xayah wrote:Datisi do you bus often?
yes
why did you say i'm not aligned with galron then?
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:40 am

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In post 1092, Coral wrote:
In post 1090, Xayah wrote:Obviously, that logic does not work if Dat is a wolf (I'd still bet game on GE and scamp villa and you will respect that when you exe me)
If you cared about convincing people to respect that then you would give... like, any reasoning whatsoever for why you're so confident on scamper being town.
You'll respect it when you see my green role pm when I flip. If I have to towncase scamper villa later I will
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:41 am

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In post 1095, Xayah wrote:
In post 1092, Coral wrote:
In post 1090, Xayah wrote:Obviously, that logic does not work if Dat is a wolf (I'd still bet game on GE and scamp villa and you will respect that when you exe me)
If you cared about convincing people to respect that then you would give... like, any reasoning whatsoever for why you're so confident on scamper being town.
You'll respect it when you see my green role pm when I flip. If I have to towncase scamper villa later I will
Or you could also tell me why you think scamp could be a wolf that'd be nice since you want to give reasoning so badly.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:43 am

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In post 1094, Datisi wrote:
In post 1080, scamper wrote:
In post 1076, Xayah wrote:Datisi do you bus often?
yes
why did you say i'm not aligned with galron then?
i don't think you bus *in the way you did*, you didn't need to be the first call out phoenix right away, you didn't need to bring up galron doing nothing when most of the thread was ignoring him, you were ahead of the curve where i still think as scum you would wait for someone else to be pushing him first before following him, i dont think phoenix responded to you the way he would to a partner
not actually skitter.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:44 am

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In post 1088, Xayah wrote:
In post 1079, Datisi wrote:
In post 1076, Xayah wrote:Datisi do you bus often?
depends if i think it's worth it or not. you'll find examples of me both hard defending and bussing partners if you look.

why?
I'm trying to track your consistency on the Ph0 Galron read and it looks good if you don't bus often but if you're an omegabusser I have to look at other areas because you look the best off the flip.
i really don't *like* doing busses but i have done a few very successful ones. not sure what i'd have done this game as scum, fwiw.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:45 am

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In post 1096, Xayah wrote:
In post 1095, Xayah wrote:
In post 1092, Coral wrote:
In post 1090, Xayah wrote:Obviously, that logic does not work if Dat is a wolf (I'd still bet game on GE and scamp villa and you will respect that when you exe me)
If you cared about convincing people to respect that then you would give... like, any reasoning whatsoever for why you're so confident on scamper being town.
You'll respect it when you see my green role pm when I flip. If I have to towncase scamper villa later I will
Or you could also tell me why you think scamp could be a wolf that'd be nice since you want to give reasoning so badly.
If by some miracle you flip town, I have no reason to give any weight to your scamper read. I have my own reasons for my scamper read and care much more about those. If you provide reasoning that convinces me I should care about your read, that could change, and it could also at least slightly chip away at the massive pile of things that you seem to be clearly making up on the fly.
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