Micro 583: Kids With Guns (Game Over)

[Bill and Gompers]

Well this sucks, but I work best with associative tells and those fools left the confirmed-town alive so let's catch some scum and win this.
¬wgeurts

[Bill and Gompers]

I'm going to reread the thread and note how everyone positioned themselves towards Maestro, Not_Mafia and really early on: Persivul.

[Bill and Gompers]

Also, called Maestro being town and demand town-credit for it/

[Bill and Gompers]

It's Kain and Lovely and I'm currently willing to bet my cash (if I could) and integrity as a Mafia player right now on this.
VOTE: Lovely
¬wgeurts

[Bill and Gompers]

I'll make a later post on why Xtoxm and Nino are town and why the other two are scum. I'm really certain here.

[KainTepes]

why did 2 people Die Last Night??

[Xtoxm]

Well shit. I regret getting cold feet on Lovely now. NM trolling was so scummy :/. I think my logic for Kain being town is probably still correct.

[Xtoxm]

Meaning Lovely+Nino

[lovelygiant]

I'm not scum, though.

I had my heart bet on N_M flipping scum. There was zero town motivation in his posts. If you disagree, feel free to prove me wrong. I refuse to be deemed suspicious for that.

I can understand Mae being town especially after that wall post. Did anybody else bother to read it, by the way?

All I can say is I'm town. I don't want us to lose by wasting this lynch on me. There's six left. A mislynch and mafia kill puts us at 4 on Day 3, and we're boned.

[lovelygiant]

Did my math wrong. 5 left. 3 by Day 3, we auto lose.

I know I'm town. I know BaG is town. This leaves:

Nino
Xtoxm
Kain

I'm going to do some ISO research and look for any connections between the three.

[lovelygiant]

First thing of note is that Xtoxm has taken many more "hard" stances than Kain or Nino. Whereas they both have avoided painting themselves into any corner. X's ISO reads as very town-motivated. Glad I refreshed myself. Still reading.

[lovelygiant]

I actually think Kain is probs Town, just kind of new. I don't think scum trying to act aggressive will shout I AM AGGRESSIVE all over the place; it attracts attention more often than not which isn't what scum wants. Kain is clearly new, judging by his join date, and his actions don't make sense as newbie scum.

More people need to post.

I don't know about Not_Mafia yet but I'm still very inclined to think BAG is town. Maybe my scumhunting skills are not great, but I don't see what the case is on BAG.

I also don't think we should policy lynch Kain unless we think he's at least slightly scummy which I don't right now. There are only 8 of us and we can't afford to policy lynch.

I want to hear more from lovelygiant.

All I feel so far is that though Maestro looks a bit too... excited for a policy lynch? We have 8 players, so policy lynching is not an option unless you think there is some likeliho that Kain is also scum. Do you think Kain is scum, Maestro?

Still want to hear more from lovelygiant, who is also on the Kain wagon.

Alright, so I believe this Maestro wagon is definitely going too fast with that almost-lynch... We have 2 weeks, right? Even if Maestro is scum, we still should try to get as much information as possible before the lynch. If Maestro is not mafia, focusing too much on him would only allow scum to relax and not feel particularly pressured.

I still feel uncomfortable about Maestro's original obsession with lynching Kain, but his explanation later on made sense to me, even though I don't agree with it (we don't have the numbers to allow for a policy lynch, besides I think Kain should be able to learn how to play the game soon). His anger upon being voted for seems slightly town-like to me because I tend to think town is more likely to feel angry about being lynched than scum, who would feel more scared and jittery. We should be careful of tunneling too much, especially on Day 1.

Kain is being really eccentric, but I still believe he is town.

Nino spent a lot of posts trying to prevent a Kain lynch. It's not inherently scummy, but worth noting IMO.

[lovelygiant]

An ISO of Kain shows him condemning Nino frequently, but he has since dropped that angle. That's about all I can make of his posts, and even that is shaky.

Kain, what are your reads?

[lovelygiant]

It's Kain and Lovely and I'm currently willing to bet my cash (if I could) and integrity as a Mafia player right now on this.
VOTE: Lovely
¬wgeurts

I have bad news.

[KainTepes]

Nino and lovelygiant are scum, we lynch lovelygiant and then we ALL CAN GO HOME!!!

[lovelygiant]

Nino and lovelygiant are scum, we lynch lovelygiant and then we ALL CAN GO HOME!!!

That would leave one scum alive.

[lovelygiant]

I'd be willing to bet on a Nino/Kain scumteam.

VOTE: Nino

Subject to change.

[KainTepes]

VOTE: NINOMASAKI

[shaddowez]

VC 2.1

NinoMasaki

[L-1]

- lovelygiant, KainTepes

lovelygiant

[L-2]

- Bill and Gompers

Not Voting

- Xtoxm, NinoMasaki

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-15 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[Xtoxm]

...

Posting for nonhammer purposes.

[lovelygiant]

VOTE: NINOMASAKI

Scum distancing with zero explanation, or just terribad town?

Putting Nino at L-1 though.

What's the likelihood of Xtoxm/Nino?

[shaddowez]

VC 2.2

NinoMasaki

[L-1]

- lovelygiant, KainTepes

lovelygiant

[L-2]

- Bill and Gompers

Not Voting

- Xtoxm, NinoMasaki

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-15 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[NinoMasaki]

What are you doing?? If either of you are town you better take your vote down right

NOW

. Though I doubt it, because xtoxm didn't quickhammer, and Bill is confirmed town, so both of you must be scum then.

VOTE: lovelygiant

Bomb me, I dare you. We all already know who you are. I had a townread on Kain before due to his reaction to Bill but now there's really no other way of looking at this.

If Kain actually turns out to be town along and xtoxm turns out to be just refraining from hammering just to drag this on I am going to be very angry -_-"

[lovelygiant]

Yeah, no, I'm pretty satisfied with my lynch vote on you. Bossing me around without any reasoning is lame, and I'm not easily intimidated.

The second half of your post reads less as a hypothetical and more as scum preparing to say "I predicted it! AHA!"

Hoping BAG comes in and sees this soon.

[lovelygiant]

What are you doing?? If either of you are town you better take your vote down right

NOW

. Though I doubt it,

because xtoxm didn't quickhammer,

and Bill is confirmed town, so both of you must be scum then.

VOTE: lovelygiant

Bomb me, I dare you. We all already know who you are. I had a townread on Kain before due to his reaction to Bill but now there's really no other way of looking at this.

If Kain actually turns out to be town along and

xtoxm turns out to be just refraining from hammering just to drag this on

I am going to be very angry -_-"

Like, you just WIFOM'd Xtoxm's motive for not hammering, so in any outcome involving his possible lynch, you can clear yourself.