Amazing that my early game reads were better than my late game reads (wrt my lifespan, at least...). Also correctly scumread Murdercat even though it was incorrectly predicated on a BTD townread.
My BTD was well off the mark though. Can someone tell me why my townread was wrong due to the 1. quickwagon, 2. claim?
You just made the mistake of assuming scum couldn't be voting scum. I was voting him because I wasn't expecting a super early wagon to take off and I like to do VCA so it would make me look good much later. Then his post after that wagon (I think it was just a naked chip vote) was really really bad and I got scared but obviously I couldn't leave the wagon. So that just kind of lead to me casually bussing him all game while town got distracted elsewhere. This is basically my scum meta I guess (as Nahdia is now well aware). I never pushed him as hard as I would have if I were actually trying to lynch him.
The claim was because he believed he had been hammered (as did I) and he was trying to get a CC, I think? I don't really remember.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
i.e. it was just supposed to be something I could point to later to say 'I wasn't afraid to vote him when [person who didn't join the wagon] was!' Not an actual bus.
Early game (especially D1) wolf wagons usually involve bussing. Ones that don't tend to acquire notable resistance or have other weird things happen to them. If btd had been hammered d1 I'd have focused on the on wagon voters going forward.
Of course if I was town here I'd have probably screwed something else up
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
@bnl: Btd's claim was 100% designed to draw a cc. Could not possibly have been town motivated. Thus they needed to be lynched once they retracted. Fwiw, I'd say a fake cop claim pushed through could have won it, maybe in a sweep. Create a fake PoE, see what happens. Would be a ballsy play though.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Thanks, Ranger and Mhsmith! This game was probably my best scum game so far, although I probably shouldn't have told Charloux. If I hadn't, we could have gone the whole game with Town believing that I am the Seer.
By the way, Nahdia, are there any reasons you want to keep the QT private?
In post 1215, BTD6_maker wrote:Thanks, Ranger and Mhsmith! This game was probably my best scum game so far, although I probably shouldn't have told Charloux. If I hadn't, we could have gone the whole game with Town believing that I am the Seer.
By the way, Nahdia, are there any reasons you want to keep the QT private?
Omg no one believed you were the seer. You played so horribly that you had to claim D1. I basically won this for you by voting karnos because I wanted to hear RS out. You were so scummy that Nahdia counterclaimed you as a VT.
And yeah, there are reasons. I also request it to not be released (I already requested this in the PT during the game).
In post 1212, mhsmith0 wrote:@bnl: Btd's claim was 100% designed to draw a cc. Could not possibly have been town motivated. Thus they needed to be lynched once they retracted. Fwiw, I'd say a fake cop claim pushed through could have won it, maybe in a sweep. Create a fake PoE, see what happens. Would be a ballsy play though.
Yeah if Nahdia had stuck with the CC it would have been an easy win. I was already convinced she was a VT like I was because of how in sync we were, but I wasn't going to call her out on that due to my strong townread of her at the time. I wouldn't have actually CC'ed him but it did cross my mind as soon as I saw what he'd claimed. Nahdia is just more ballsy than I am xP
In post 1215, BTD6_maker wrote:Thanks, Ranger and Mhsmith! This game was probably my best scum game so far, although I probably shouldn't have told Charloux. If I hadn't, we could have gone the whole game with Town believing that I am the Seer.
By the way, Nahdia, are there any reasons you want to keep the QT private?
In fact, the only reason I didn't speedlynch you D2 was actually
because
Charloux told me that you admitted to fakeclaiming and Charl told me he was sure you were a VT gambiting. (He did also tell me not to trust his reads) But I was doing Charl the solid of not gunning for you out of the gate because of the BNL lynch Nahdia wanted which I was responsible for strongarming.
In other news, Murdercat I'm never believing a seemingly town reaction from you to being lynched again The tone was almost off due to appearing too calm, but the content was convincing to me, so I believe you played really well here and you did deserve the win.
In post 1215, BTD6_maker wrote:Thanks, Ranger and Mhsmith! This game was probably my best scum game so far, although I probably shouldn't have told Charloux. If I hadn't, we could have gone the whole game with Town believing that I am the Seer.
By the way, Nahdia, are there any reasons you want to keep the QT private?
Omg no one believed you were the seer. You played so horribly that you had to claim D1. I basically won this for you by voting karnos because I wanted to hear RS out. You were so scummy that Nahdia counterclaimed you as a VT.
And yeah, there are reasons. I also request it to not be released (I already requested this in the PT during the game).
JR, town didn't play great but there's a reason you were vengekilled, it was not your fault.
In post 1219, JaeReed wrote:In other news, Murdercat I'm never believing a seemingly town reaction from you to being lynched again The tone was almost off due to appearing too calm, but the content was convincing to me, so I believe you played really well here and you did deserve the win.
That is one thing that is much easier to fake than anything else. My scum hunting and game solving was honestly terrible but I got away with it because BTD was scummy enough that I could safely sit on him. I think the biggest tell for me being scum was that I sat on one person but wasn't actively presenting information that would get them lynched.
I don't see how I was scummy in Day 1 before the Seer claim. The only thing that could point to me being scummy was the fact that my RVS vote had only been done in one past scum game. (I couldn't have linked to Open 644 yet).
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