Micro 648: Mystery Box Mafia - 't is gedaan!

[NJAC]

Ok. This obviously confirms N_M as scum 100%.

VOTE: N_M

[NJAC]

You realize that, in the remote case you're town, and Expedience and Guilty are scum, you're losing us the game, right?

I just can't grok why you didn't consider scum!Vax here

I did, that's why I unvoted N_M. I just saw {you+Expedience} as the most likely scenario, if N_M was town.

Now N_M is 100% confirmed scum, so it doesn't matter anymore.

[NJAC]

Actually, I'm just retarded.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

What do you mean? Why retarded?

[Not_Mafia]

Ok. This obviously confirms N_M as scum 100%.

VOTE: N_M

Obviously

[Sméagol]

Sorry for dragging this out, Friday ( I believ) I was like "meh, I'm amused by the discussion, I'll postpone the update", and then the site disappeared.

After doublechecking, I'll end this game, eventhough I could have Friday night. I think. Let me check.

[Not_Mafia]

Wut

[Sméagol]

You forgot your role Not_Mafia..

I'm preparing the write-up.

[Sméagol]

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Abstaining [2]:

Expedience / GuiltyLion

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(active): Investigate the target of target player.

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(passive): You require one less vote in order to be lynched.

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- ascetic neapolitan -

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[3] Maruchan † -

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[4] gigabyteTroubadour † -

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- even-night watcher - lynched day 2

[5] Flames682 † -

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- hashtag doctor - lynched day 1

[6] RyanK † -

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- 1-shot box investigator - killed night 2

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- odd-turn box investigator - endgame

[8] Not_Mafia † -

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- hated tracker - lynched day 3

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[Vaxkiller]

GG everyone, out of curiosity guilty, would you have Vanilized me over the night if you guys decided to kill of NJAC?

[Vaxkiller]

Thanks mod for a good game!

[NJAC]

LOL. I knew it was worth voting and see if N_M was still Hated .

[Vaxkiller]

I love how you unvoted and re-voted, as if doing it again might work!

[NJAC]

[NJAC]

Awesome job @Mod. I enjoyed the game.

Also, good job vax, I thought we were lost because your lynch seemed very hard to stop (even with your Loved modifier).

[NJAC]

@GL: you're very accurate with your reads. Fortunately you stopped pushing hard.

[Sméagol]

It feels a

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like a cop-out ending (slightly because of me delaying it but..), but I feel like mafia won

mostly

because of Not_Mafia not paying attention. If he exchanged his role right away, I suspect we'd be looking at a town win right now.
Not_Mafia definitely stepped up his game day 3, but it's a bit too little too late.

I liked how House managed to bullshit his way out of

major

scumslip, and I like how Vaxkiller continued that style, though I think it was delaying the inevitable with the truth coming out eventually. House fake result on NJAC was not something I'd have done, but team ice cream made the most out of it.

Comment about the "mistake". I did indeed make a mistake, but not the one House was claiming, so I didn't make a public announcement about it. What I did was, give House a role cop report about Expedience instead of a neapolitan report. If House claimed this and if did inconvenience him, I'd have made a public statement about it, but House claimed the town vanilla result on NJAC, and tried to use my mistake to bail him out his precarious situation. His situation was caused by his neapolitan / vanilla cop scumslip, and had nothing to do with the erroneous report I sent.

I liked how the mechanics worked, though it's a shame people weren't exchaning their roles more. I feel like this game could benefit from simply more players, I think a potential sequel would be a mini.
I will post the roles and mods with their chances in a separate post, but things like neighbours had a relatively bigger chance of getting used, but random being the way it is, neighbours never got used in this game. The neighbourhood is empty. Only one neighbour role made it into the box, but never got exchanged.

[House]

What I did was, give House a role cop report about Expedience instead of a neapolitan report. If House claimed this and if did inconvenience him, I'd have made a public statement about it, but House claimed the town vanilla result on NJAC, and tried to use my mistake to bail him out his precarious situation. His situation was caused by his neapolitan / vanilla cop scumslip, and had nothing to do with the erroneous report I sent.

I was mafia, it was my job to lie and take maximum advantage of every conceivable opportunity.

[Sméagol]

Role pool

Vanilla 20%
Watcher 5
Role cop 5
Tracker 10
Vanillaizer 10
Box investigator 10
Roleblocker 10
Doctor 5
Censor 5
Role switcher 5
Neapolitan 10
Mod remover 5

Mod pool

None 5%
1-shot bulletproof 5
Ascetic 5
Odd-turn 10
Even-Turn 10
Hashtag 5
1-shot 15
Deadtrader 5
Lover 5
Neighbour 20
Hated 10
Loved 5

Those are the roles and modifiers. I only changed one thing during the game. I was getting way too many ascetics, so I changed it from 10 to 5, while bumping up neighbours from 15 to 20.

Like I said pre-game, I didn't want to go crazy for the first game, with only several mostly known roles ands modifiers. Getting in more would mean more roles not getting used anyway.

The unfamiliar roles and mods:

Box investigator

Already in the thread, but this lets you find out the contents of the box. Served 2 purposes.. You can see if there's something worth exchanging for (the obvious purpose), and you can somewhat verify some role / exchange claims.

Role switcher

Originally this would let you force 2 players to switch their roles, but I felt that would be a bit too chaotic, so I changed it so you'd force someone to use the mystery box (i.e only targeting one player).

Censor

The most exotic role, this would let you delete posts. Someone had this role, but exchanged it without using it.

Mod remover

Vanillaizer but for mods.

Hashtag

Gave you a post requirement as seen in the thread.

Deadtrader

Would restrict you to exchange your role with dead players, you can't use the box.

Other comments:

No cops or vigs. This was deliberate, and not up for discussion. Didn't want to potentially end up with multiples of those. Would not be a problem with non-random roles, which was the first idea I had for this set-up, but I liked the idea of random generated roles.

For next game I should definitely bump up role cop.

Vanillas had a relatively big chance of popping up, but would most likely be exchanged, making neapolitans harder to use, but the only way to get some form of cop report. I think they're more valuable here than in a normal game.

Odd and even mods were universal, I'd edit them to fit the role, so odd-night or odd-turn.

Likewise, I'd just ignore mods that wouldn't make sense with the roles, like odd-turn vanilla.

[Sméagol]

What I did was, give House a role cop report about Expedience instead of a neapolitan report. If House claimed this and if did inconvenience him, I'd have made a public statement about it, but House claimed the town vanilla result on NJAC, and tried to use my mistake to bail him out his precarious situation. His situation was caused by his neapolitan / vanilla cop scumslip, and had nothing to do with the erroneous report I sent.

I was mafia, it was my job to lie and take maximum advantage of every conceivable opportunity.

Wasn't sure to what extend you have been banned, so didn't know if you'd get the message or be able to post here.

Anyway: sure, I'm not taking offense or anything, but if I make a mistake it's my job to make sure it has the least consequences (which is also why I didn't give the report to Vaxkiller), so that's how I decided to deal with it. Like I said privately, if I made it public, it would implie your fake claim about the town vanilla report on NJAC was correct, and I couldn't have that. But like I said, I'm impressed you managed to bullshit your way out of it regardless, enough for Vaxkiller to survive the game.

[Sméagol]

dead thread
Not much going on there.

Neighbourhood is empty like I said,

And at request the mafia thread will remain private (..though there isn't anything actually offensive in there).

Which leaves the badly maintained mod thread, which doesn't have any info I'm not going to post here.

[Expedience]

:s

I feel really stupid now.

[Sméagol]

Night actions

Night 1

GuiltyLion

role investigates

RyanK

// RyanK is ascetic, so ability fails.

Not_Mafia

vanilla-izes

RyanK

// RyanK is ascetic, so ability fails.

NJAC

kills

Maruchan

House

role investigates

Expedience

// Expedience is an odd-turn box investigator

See comment about mistake, that should've been "Expedience is not a town vanilla".

Night 2

NJAC

kills

RyanK

Vaxkiller

neapolitan investigates

Not_Mafia

// Not_Mafia is not a town vanilla.

Not_Mafia

tracks

Expedience

// Expedience has no target

This excludes the day / turn actions, which were only a few box investigations by Expedience and Ryan.

[House]

I think I am supposed to be banned from posting entirely, but the reply box was there so I did.

Either way, I won't be signing up for anymore games until cleared by crayons, to honor the spirit of the ban.

[Sméagol]

I think I am supposed to be banned from posting entirely, but the reply box was there so I did.

Either way, I won't be signing up for anymore games until cleared by crayons, to honor the spirit of the ban.

Well, you're part of the game, so if you have any other comments, I'd love to hear them.

[House]

Guilty had me dead to rights very quickly, I'm impressed with his read and constant hounding of me (during my time in the game).

He kinda forced me into my fake result gambit, a slightly more attentive town would have followed through on the lynch of my slot to confirm NJAC.

Vax and NJAC did a great job of keeping the imminent doom of a scum lynch at bay, because a Vax lynch would have sealed our fate with my risky gambit.