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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:42 am
by Human Sequencer
The fact that creature wasn't the nightkill makes him pretty likely to be chosen in my eyes.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:43 am
by Creature
My paranoia reads dying always make me happy.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:47 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 600, Human Sequencer wrote:The fact that creature wasn't the nightkill makes him pretty likely to be chosen in my eyes.
That could be said about literally everyone still alive...

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:48 am
by Human Sequencer
There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:49 am
by Creature
I'm feeling tempted to do Tenshii.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:35 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 603, Human Sequencer wrote:There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?
Because you're scum and already know who Chosen Townies are?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:37 am
by Tenshii
In post 603, Human Sequencer wrote:There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?
No, what is it? And ironically this is setting up to be the same situation that happened with Creature when he talked about chosen townies.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:38 am
by Human Sequencer
@creature I doubt scum would townread chosen to the extent Tenshii is. I'm doing a more thorough analysis right now.
What were you trying to get to in ?

@dave :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:40 am
by Tenshii
So what was that nn30 wagon about? I still don't get why it happened.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:40 am
by Creature
Thought you could possible be scum sliding under the radar.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:41 am
by Creature
In post 608, Tenshii wrote:So what was that nn30 wagon about? I still don't get why it happened.
Scum were less passionate for it, they probably were planning to pocket nn30.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:42 am
by Human Sequencer
That checks out, but why did you ask nn and tenshii at the time? If you townread Tenshii enough to trust his reads at that point, what has caused you to change or question your perspective?
I know you townread nn.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:43 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 607, Human Sequencer wrote:@creature I doubt scum would townread chosen to the extent Tenshii is. I'm doing a more thorough analysis right now.
What were you trying to get to in ?

@dave :roll:
You're not denying it...

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:48 am
by Creature
They were active at the time and they weren't Vedith (who would just say scum).

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:49 am
by Tenshii
Creature, Human, TTTT: Why did you all vote for nn30?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:51 am
by Creature
Again, I wasn't feeling this was his town!game. At the end of the day I kind of thought more about it, but even if I decided to not lynch him, I might end lynching him later.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:53 am
by Tenshii
In post 610, Creature wrote:
In post 608, Tenshii wrote:So what was that nn30 wagon about? I still don't get why it happened.
Scum were less passionate for it, they probably were planning to pocket nn30.
Oh lol I get it. So you're implying scum weren't attacking nn30 as hard? Then who were scum in this scenario?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:53 am
by Human Sequencer
Creature was playing town leader briefly, and a lot of the playerlist townreads him. For reference:
Grendel townreads creature.
Hiraki implies he won't be voting creature.
and Shadow townreads creature.
Tenshii townreads creature.
and TTTT implies a townread on Creature.
I townread creature.

Universally townread town are prime candidates for the nightkill, especially if they're capable of co-ordinating town like he did recently near deadline. He's probably their strongest nk at the moment, so the fact that he isn't dead is telling.
The only other way to explain this is if he's scum, in which case I invite you to convince me of that, or that I've missed something about Grendel. Considering town (me) was hardpushing his slot lately, it'd be an easy mislynch to manufacture later on in the game, so I'm not so sure it's such a valid nightkill.

@dave Yeah, I'm scum. Sup.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:54 am
by Tenshii
In post 617, Human Sequencer wrote:@dave Yeah, I'm scum. Sup.
GG

VOTE: Human

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:54 am
by Tenshii
This is effectively L-2 because there's no way in hell Dave isn't gonna vote here.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:56 am
by PsychoticDave
You've never played a game where scum was universally townread?
It happens.
It's called being good scum.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:56 am
by Human Sequencer
In post 613, Creature wrote:They were active at the time and they weren't Vedith (who would just say scum).
This also checks out.
In post 614, Tenshii wrote:Creature, Human, TTTT: Why did you all vote for nn30?
His posts read fake as fuck, I discussed this with TTTT briefly before taking a closer look and posting my findings here.

@Dave. Again, I invite you to tell me otherwise.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:58 am
by Creature
In post 620, PsychoticDave wrote:You've never played a game where scum was universally townread?
It happens.
It's called being good scum.
Depends if the player is known for being good at scum.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:59 am
by Tenshii
In post 621, Human Sequencer wrote:His posts read fake as fuck, I discussed this with TTTT briefly before taking a closer look and posting my findings here. 495
You voted nn30 when you came to the conclusion of townreading him?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:00 am
by Human Sequencer
VOTE: Dave
Considering how bad his town play was in our micro not too long ago, it's not a stretch to think that his play as scum is truly as transparent and bad as it is here.

@Tenshii That post was my unvote. I was not on the NN lynch wagon.