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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:42 am
by Human Sequencer
I'll make a big post about it just like my big 'nn is town' post I made ages ago when the time is right.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:43 am
by Human Sequencer
In post 672, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 670, Human Sequencer wrote:I don't think as it stands the Hiraki wagon is legitimate. I just think a Dave scum flip incriminates Hiraki.
Didn't you also think NN being scum meant I would be scum?
Are you just pairing me with people in hopes I eventually get lynched by association?
Actually I take that back, I literally never said that, where did you pull that from.
A misrep and a discredit all in one. Nice.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:44 am
by Tenshii
Fuck. You know you've fucked up when a player won't even bother trying because of a previous game.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:45 am
by Human Sequencer
I was just joking Tenshii, don't take it to heart.
<3

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:46 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 676, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 672, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 670, Human Sequencer wrote:I don't think as it stands the Hiraki wagon is legitimate. I just think a Dave scum flip incriminates Hiraki.
Didn't you also think NN being scum meant I would be scum?
Are you just pairing me with people in hopes I eventually get lynched by association?
Actually I take that back, I literally never said that, where did you pull that from.
A misrep and a discredit all in one. Nice.
Someone said it. I assumed it was you.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:47 am
by PsychoticDave
So...

@Human: What makes me so scummy? Why am I scum?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:48 am
by Human Sequencer
Why do you care so much? If I'm just a stupid townie, surely you'd just be able to ignore me and push whoever you think is scum?

There's no town motivation for 680, and the scum motivation is pretty blinding.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:50 am
by PsychoticDave
Actually, I'm a Chosen Townie.

You've been constantly pushing for my lynch for no reason.
Obviously, you're scum and know who the Chosen Townies are and you thought today would be a good day to try to mislynch one.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:53 am
by Human Sequencer
Chosen Townies don't get a role PM saying 'Chosen Townie'. They get a role PM saying 'Townie'.
You just fucked up really bad.

So, this is a slam-dunk lynch now, right guys?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:54 am
by Human Sequencer
Considering I have to sleep, Dave will probably be powerlynched, I'm now a likely nk and mod is around, I should explain why Dave being scum incriminates Hiraki.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:08 am
by Human Sequencer
Hiraki on Dave in
Adachi wrote:Please play the game. This is horrendous play regardless what role you have. The fact that this is UNANIMOUS among all players in the game should say something to you.
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PsychoticDave - Player who is ruining the game by being a baby about the game. This is an OK D1 lynch for all of the wrong reasons. I would really rather a replacement (sorry mod)
Potential scum motivation is in thread coaching to get his scumbuddy to play the damn game instead of being 110% lynchbait, and disregards a lynch on his partner as a lynch for 'all the wrong reasons'. Requests a replacement, because without it Hiraki has very low chances of winning the game without substantial carrying capability. Town motivation exists, but isn't as compelling.


Hiraki keeps his options open. This is a stance scum can easily and flexibly use to change either way depending on how a wagon on their partner goes. scumHiraki in this post is making sure that he can push a Dave wagon if he has to, or he can start townreading Dave if he has to.


Strangely defensive of Dave. Interesting, considering...


Specifically mentions that he'd rather nn gone over Dave, interesting considering he doesn't actually have to justify his vote relative to Dave at all. It implies that Hiraki had motive to vote Dave, despite him generally being against the lynch in his earlier postings ('I don't wanna lynch this because it's bad not scum' is how I read them).


Still refuses to give a concrete read on Dave, other than 'Is bad'. Scum still keeping his options open, because he's entirely aware that a wagon could shift on Dave at any moment because of something stupid Dave might do.

On Dave's side:


Unwarranted townread out of nowhere. Scum motivation is Dave desperately trying to save his partner, who he interprets as being close to being lynched.


Townread is bollocks.

Hiraki's general contempt to Dave's play really makes me feel like he's frustrated at being paired with such a shitty player as scum.
In which case, I'm so sorry you had to be paired with Dave.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:11 am
by Hiraki
472 isn't a defense of dave as much as it is a question of Grendel's reads - will post comprehensively later

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:12 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 683, Human Sequencer wrote:Chosen Townies don't get a role PM saying 'Chosen Townie'. They get a role PM saying 'Townie'.
You just fucked up really bad.

So, this is a slam-dunk lynch now, right guys?
To be fair, I just want you lynched because you're scum.
It was worth a shot.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:13 am
by Human Sequencer
I knew you'd say that.
He's lying. Lynch him.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:15 am
by PsychoticDave
If Chosen Townies got that as a PM, they could just claim D1 and scum would have to counterclaim them to try to get them lynched, leading to gg, town wins.
I was kinda hoping you'd be lollynched based on a lack of investigating rolecards.
Worked on me once in a different game off-site...

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:17 am
by Hiraki
I'm busy to write anything that i'd be satisfied to die with so don't

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:17 am
by Human Sequencer
Please link me that game off-site.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:18 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 691, Human Sequencer wrote:Please link me that game off-site.
That requires outing my identity.
People from there are also here and would harass the fuck out of me, so I'd rather not.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:20 am
by Human Sequencer
I don't really need to say anything else. Dave just claimed scum. Lynch this.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:21 am
by PsychoticDave
In post 693, Human Sequencer wrote:I don't really need to say anything else. Dave just claimed scum. Lynch this.
You actually literally claimed scum...

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:24 am
by Hiraki
In post 688, Human Sequencer wrote:I knew you'd say that.
Actually - what does this mean?

Is this not the logical conclusion anyone would get at?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:26 am
by Human Sequencer
I knew Dave would respond with 'N-no it was just a gambit g-guys' because that's literally the only out he has at that point.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:31 am
by Hiraki
i apologize, i've been misreading your posts

no more juggling

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:05 am
by PsychoticDave
To be fair, I could be a Chosen Townie based on your intent to get me killed.

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:48 pm
by TTTT
In post 641, PsychoticDave wrote:UNVOTE: Hiraki




At least for a split second, you thought I hammered.


Anyway, I'm going to look at Hiraki's ISO.
In post 642, PsychoticDave wrote:Okay... so...
I townread Hiraki...
You Iso'd Hiraki in 3 minutes?
And you claimed Chosen Townie? :lol:

VOTE: Dave