Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:31 pm
Fast RVS = good RVS. Implosion, Kain, and Comm are all town.
try: using a RVS wagon to try and bait a claimIn post 16, CommKnight wrote: [*] There is no explanation for your immediate switch. I assume you'll say because I joined some band wagon or that putting someone at L2 this early is "scummy". Both terrible reasons. Do not forget, you also voted for him, thus any unvote warrants that you randomly voted as a poor joke vote or to seem active in the first stage of the Day 1. I gave my reason for putting him at L2.
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. give as little information as possible to the mafia. there is no reason for someone to claim for no reason.In post 22, CommKnight wrote:Claims are always good to get
You know, it's quite rude to assume.Comm wrote:There is no explanation for your immediate switch. I assume you'll say because I joined some band wagon or that putting someone at L2 this early is "scummy". Both terrible reasons.
Are you aware of site meta?Comm wrote:Do not forget, you also voted for him, thus any unvote warrants that you randomly voted as a poor joke vote or to seem active in the first stage of the Day 1.
I disagree with the premise that an early claim on d1 is good for town; this is sort of the common consensus on mafiascum as well.Comm wrote:By unvoting you take away someone from claiming and having real discussion happen for the rest of Day 1.
If you want a more serious theory discussion of this I'm happy to give it to you; an early claim is bad relative to a late claim for two reasons. One, asking an arbitrary person to claim is a bad idea as that person may later have become obvious town, making their claimed status a detriment; two, to more directly address the point you're making, it warps discussion around the claim. A great example of this is one of my recently completed games (Gamma Emerald was in it as well); we had a town ascetic claim on page one, and discussion warped entirely around that claim for the next several pages. He was then counterclaimed and the entire day's discussion warped around the two of them. This kind of discussion is generally easy for scum to hide in because they don't have to take nuanced stances; they can merely say "I believe/disbelieve the claim because X" and claim relative ignorance of the rest of the game.Comm wrote:Simple. A claim early on is good for town, it gives us plenty of time to discuss. However, one has already made his motives clear with no words spoken from his unvote. Do tell me if I'm wrong to assume not explaining a vote and unvote while also delaying discussion to be scum motivated. Correct?
Okay, you clearly don't know site meta if you think this. This is simply not true. I can pretty much guarantee that there's no doctor if there is a cop unless scum have a roleblocker or strongman or the like. And even then, that combination has drifted massively out of style over the course of the past decade. It's incredibly rare to have roles that are worth claiming in combination with roles that can protect them. Especially in such a small game. It's also *VERY* probably 2:7 (or even 2:1:6) rather than 3:6.Comm wrote:This is a quick set-up game. No real specialties going on. It's safe to assume there's at least a cop and doctor active with possible other town PRs if we have 3 mafia.
Why yes, I am quite guilty of skirting by for the first severalPerhaps he hoped to skirt by without someone noticing that lack of contribution to the discussion even this early on.
Ever so slight tendency to agree.Parama wrote:current impression is that Comm is town but very misguided. dunno about anyone else.
Fun fact. Last game I played was 2:5. Day one ended in a quicklynch on page 1. The L-3 and L-0 votes were from town. The L-2 and L-1 votes were from scum. Of course this is just a single case, but etc.In post 33, Transcend wrote:Nvm i don't tr tweet
I tr connan
I thought tweet L-2'd me when i was phone scrolling, but it was connan
you didn't even correctly read who made the vote the first time you looked at it :SIn post 37, Transcend wrote:I felt the vote was genuine rather than opportunistic.
Btw I'm not here to wow you with my opinions, I'm just here to lynch scum
Says the one with 1200 WINS on TOWN OF SALEM,,,,In post 19, KainTepes wrote:Ok, what the hell is wrong with you. stop trolling.
My vote is staying on you until you stop your rude antics,, don't act like a pretentious pomp just because you can 'speak english' can not do anything else. Also, that remark is racist to people who only speak mandarin.
I'm sick and tired of people calling me a "motherfucker" today. my mother is dead. stop it.
on mafiascum, people simply DO NOT ask for claims on page 1. it's stupid and unnecessary basically we don't know what the setup even is, so this isn't town of salem if that's where you came from, douchebag.