Micro 691: Just Mafia (Game Over)

[Tenshii]

I buy the claim and townread LuV. Not related to each other.

Granted, this is my first time playing a closed setup.

I'm going to assume there isn't two town protective PRs in a 9p, so anyone who CCs it should claim. I assume it would be a trade in the town's favor.

[Hiraki]

@Darklyn there is no acceptable reason why you can't hop on this quickly

Vote: Horrordude

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: AJ

Can't switch until there's more votes but I am deadset on Horror tbh

[Sobolev Space]

VOTE: horrordude

If we're buying Lil Uzi's claim I would much prefer this over AJ

[horrordude0215]

Horrordude are you CCing or do you just not buy his claim?

This is my first time playing a closed set up so I'm not entirely sure how to treat claims/when one should counterclaim. If anyone could give some guidelines on this that would be great.

I'm not CCing. I just don't buy the claim.

To answer your questions, in micro games, there are usually 2 scum and 1-2 town power roles. I recommend taking a look at the setups in a few completed games to get an idea of what these setups generally look like. The odds of there being 2 of the same type of role (2 investigative, 2 protective, etc.) are very slim, even in closed setups. A counterclaim would essentially turn into a 1v1 and would greatly benefit town because then you lynch one and if they flip town, you lynch the other.

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah if you ain't counterclaiming, we ain't lynching. Night actions sort this shit anyways.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Hiraki

[horrordude0215]

*sigh*

VOTE: Hiraki

[Hiraki]

Vote: Horrordude

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.12

Candidate	Count	Voters
horrordude0215	L−3	Sobolev Space, Hiraki
Hiraki	L−3	Aj The Epic, horrordude0215
Lil Uzi Vert	L−4	Maxous
Maxous	L−4	Toto
Aj The Epic	L−4	Tenshii

Not voting:

Darklyn, Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Night will fall in (expired on 2017-03-22 23:20:00).

[Toto]

Hiraki,

Do you think AJ and Clown can be scum together?

[Hiraki]

Very much so. Do you have any reason not to believe so?

[Maxous]

This site

I guess I'll claim. I'm a town protective PR.

Spoiler:

you don't lurk the game and give no effort to defend yourself

as a doctor

if you're a town protective you will put more effort into getting the wagon off of you so you

don't have to claim

i don't believe this at all

[Maxous]

Do you guys know how many times LUV actively flakes from games?

oh wait.

he does?
huh.

[Maxous]

#227
The guy lurks then gives out about low activity and threatens to replace out.
Again, likely town but just silly

Max, you do realize that one could argue that your read on Toto is just as shallow as you think my read on AJ is?

no?
argue it then

[Maxous]

like, if i'm to trust Hiraki's read on LUV, that he's just a player that regularly pulls shit like this...i'm not gonna be delighted, sorry

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I feel I'm right here and as a result, here we are.

You're really going to have to work to explain this one. What could you possibly feel you're right about here? The only read you've provided before this was that AJ was town - you've provided nothing of substance to even sort of make a case on anyone.

Again, what's the issue? I asked Horror what he was hoping to accomplish before putting you at L-1 because I believed he didn't intend to do anything except wait for a better lynch to come along. If you notice, he's still yet to answer that question and he only has engaged with me about mafia theory. All he's done since then is hopped on your bandwagon for a fairly weak reason. Now he's pushing me for lurking which is NAI.

So much is wrong with this post. I fully addressed why I didn't put AJ at L-1: because we still had a week until deadline, and short days benefit no one except scum. I fully expressed my scumread on AJ from my intro post, and the only reason I wasn't voting him before that was because my Hiraki read was stronger.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy this at all.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Back to L-1 you go.

VOTE: Horror

What's there to explain? I feel my reads are accurate and that I'm on the right track.

I'm not worried about why you didn't put AJ to L-1. I'm worried about what you said you wanted to accomplish before doing so. You've yet to tell me what you wanted to do, why is that?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

#227
The guy lurks then gives out about low activity and threatens to replace out.
Again, likely town but just silly

Max, you do realize that one could argue that your read on Toto is just as shallow as you think my read on AJ is?

no?
argue it then

I claimed the way I did for a reason. Why are you assuming that I'm a doctor?

Also, I'm not going to give effort when the basis of my case is that I'm lurking which is NAI. You don't think that I wasn't fully aware that I was active lurking?

like, if i'm to trust Hiraki's read on LUV, that he's just a player that regularly pulls shit like this...i'm not gonna be delighted, sorry

You're basically saying you think Toto is town because he mentioned the lack of activity and threaten to replace out. That is arguable just as shallow as you think you my read on AJ is

[Darklyn]

luV who do you want lynched?

[Hiraki]

like, if i'm to trust Hiraki's read on LUV, that he's just a player that regularly pulls shit like this...i'm not gonna be delighted, sorry

I don't have a read on LUV - I just know he's not a good lynch for today.

[Hiraki]

Deadline is in just around 12 hours. Please vote.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

luV who do you want lynched?

Horror.

[horrordude0215]

I'm not worried about why you didn't put AJ to L-1. I'm worried about what you said you wanted to accomplish before doing so. You've yet to tell me what you wanted to do, why is that?

With half of the town completely MIA, letting the game continue rather than ending early would be fucking idiotic. I wanted to prevent exactly what is happening now... forcing multiple people to claim because wagons keep hopping around.

Claim: Town Investigative PR

This wagon on me is horrible. Now, please unvote.

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: AJ

I hope someone CCs.

[Aj The Epic]

Hiraki, please explain your reasoning for voting me again so everyone can remember how awful it is and the fact that you're sticking to reasons you developed on like page 5.

[Hiraki]

The difference in pages would be a factor if we didn't waste 5 pages trying to lynch a lurky player for lurking.