Micro 752: Mafia for the Vengeful Redux (Game Over)

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Micro 752: Mafia for the Vengeful Redux (Game Over)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:11 pm

Post by Equinox »

A bunch of fools got together to play a game of Mafia hosted by an even bigger fool. Let us watch the game and be amused by their antics.


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BTD6_maker
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Spoiler: Game Reveals
Men Against Fire
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Fishythefish,
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Shut Up and Dance
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BTD6_maker,
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The_Jester,
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Rules and Setup
Day 1 Begins
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Endgame
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:12 pm

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Rules


All rules listed in the Boilerplate Game Rules (rev. April 23, 2014) page apply to this game except where contradicted in the additional rules below:
  1. Days will have a deadline of two weeks, and Nights will last 24 hours where applicable. Deadline extensions will be granted only in extenuating circumstances.
  2. Lynches occur through simple majority (50% of living players + 1, rounded down). If no majority is reached at deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie, the player who reached majority first will be lynched. Once majority is reached, no further votes or unvotes will count. Votes for No Lynch will not be counted.
  3. Dead players and spectators may not post until the game has been officially declared over. No "Bah!" posts.
  4. Prods will not be issued automatically. Any player may request a prod at any time. Players who have not posted during the Day phase or who have not responded to their Night prods will be replaced. You made a commitment when signing up for this game. Please be responsible with it.
  5. Actions not received by deadline will be counted as "No Action." Actions may be submitted ahead of time and can be changed as many times as desired. At deadline, the last valid action that was submitted will be used. Actions may be submitted via PM or private topic.
  6. Votes placed by accounts not present in the game will not be counted. Vote tricks will not be tolerated, and any judgment passed over the validity of any ambiguous votes is final.
  7. New for this game:
    Vote counts will be posted twice daily at 1200 and 2400 EDT (UTC-4). This will not be an ideal game with which to play drinking games.
  8. Do not use
    #BF0000
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  9. Flavor is for entertainment purposes only and has no significance in the game.
  10. Any situations not covered above will be handled on an individual basis. I reserve the right to add, modify, or remove rules as necessary.


Setup


The five-player Vengeful Mafia open setup consists of two mafiosi, three townies, and the following mechanics:
  • Day talk is enabled for this game.
  • If the mafia godfather is lynched at any point, the town immediately wins the game. However, if the mafia godfather is killed by a vengeance kill, the game continues.
  • If a town vanilla is lynched on Day 1, the lynched townie has one 1-shot kill to be used immediately.
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Welcome to Micro 752, XXX!

You are a
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YYY
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You and your partner may talk in this private topic. If the mafia godfather is lynched on Day 1, you will lose the game. This does not occur if the mafia godfather is killed by any other method.

You win when the number of mafia members alive equals the number of town members alive, and the town does not have a vengeance kill available.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding to this PM with your alignment and role.
Welcome to Micro 752, XXX!

You are a
mafia godfather
with
YYY
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You and your partner may talk in this private topic. If you are lynched on Day 1, you will lose the game. This does not occur if you are killed by any other method.

You win when the number of mafia members alive equals the number of town members alive, and the town does not have a vengeance kill available.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding to this PM with your alignment and role.
Welcome to Micro 752, XXX!

You are a
town vanilla
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You have no special abilities beyond the right to vote. However, if you are lynched on Day 1, you will have one 1-shot kill to be used immediately.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and at least one member of the town remains standing.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding to this PM with your alignment and role.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:21 am

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All players have confirmed!

Day 1 begins now.

Vote Count 1.00
Not Voting (5) - BTD6_maker, Errantparabola, Fishythefish, Nexus, The_Jester


With 5 alive, it will take 3 to reach majority.

The deadline is on Thursday, November 9, 2017, at 8:30 AM EST (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2017-11-09 08:30:00).
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:24 am

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EP you're scum.

PROVE ME WRONG
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:24 am

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Now being sensible I will not SMACK DOWN A VOTE yet because obv small game and shit but be real, it's EP.

Also, I've got CHANNELDELIBIRD visiting me so I WILL probably not be able to keep up with 10000000 posts in a day so if we can keep it cool and chill that'd be much appreciated.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:59 am

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Agreed, scum will prolly speedlynch so fuck rvs
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:50 am

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Counterpoint:
I’m town
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:15 am

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In post 5, The_Jester wrote:Agreed, scum will prolly speedlynch so fuck rvs
wait what
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:38 am

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Jester is your buddy
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:43 am

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Game solved, let's wrap it up
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:18 am

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This game seems rather scumsided. There's a 60% chance of a Mafia win. It's strange that Equinox used this version rather than the updated Vengeful, which is perfectly balanced.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:54 am

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I reckon it's Jester and BTD. They've both made only pretty pointless theory posts, avoiding any sniff of conflict.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:13 am

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Meh BTD always does plenty of IIoA
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:43 am

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And do you?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:11 am

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Dunno iso me
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:42 pm

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Anything interesting you found out, Fish?

In post 7, Errantparabola wrote:
In post 5, The_Jester wrote:Agreed, scum will prolly speedlynch so fuck rvs
wait what
no
No to scum speedlynching or no to no random voting?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:29 am

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Town votes town
Scum speedlynches
Town shoots scum
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:29 am

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I'm happy with my choice of The_Jester for sucm.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:10 am

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In post 11, Fishythefish wrote:I reckon it's Jester and BTD. They've both made only pretty pointless theory posts, avoiding any sniff of conflict.
Is making an IIoA accusation Townish or scummy? I am counting you as making the accusation as The Jester implied that it was null whereas you seemed to imply that it was scummy.

I strongly suspect that there is no actual truth behind IIoA and that someone accused of it is as likely as random to be Town or scum. But is it scummy to be making such a claim? There are certainly many people who believe it to be a genuine tell. However, scum may use it as an easy way to cast shade on someone or an excuse to scumread them.

Of course, all this is incredibly weak. What I am saying is possible but it is probably very unlikely. However, I do think that this will help in getting out of our effective RVS, in the absence of a real RVS.

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:07 pm

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In post 15, The_Jester wrote:Anything interesting you found out, Fish?
Nope, not bothering to read your meta, and I don't think it would tell me much really.

@BTD: IIoA as someone's only posts is scummy because it looks like you are doing stuff while avoiding conflict. Particularly when, as here, the information isn't anything that helps.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:25 pm

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In very early effective RVS, there's no serious conflict to analyse.

I can understand your point, but it would only apply when there is serious analysis to be done. In that case, pure IIoA seems very rare and even then I don't have the statistics. But it's mostly used against people who post both I and A.

In Surreptitious, I did pretty much only IIoA, only it turned out to be finding a breaking strategy for the Town win. Likewise, I posted mostly I (but some A) in Micro 729, in which I again found a breaking strategy.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:34 pm

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In post 19, Fishythefish wrote:
In post 15, The_Jester wrote:Anything interesting you found out, Fish?
Nope, not bothering to read your meta, and I don't think it would tell me much really.
If my meta doesn't matter, why ask this:
In post 12, The_Jester wrote:Meh BTD always does plenty of IIoA
In post 13, Fishythefish wrote:And do you?
To look busy?
In post 19, Fishythefish wrote:@BTD: IIoA as someone's only posts is scummy because it looks like you are doing stuff while avoiding conflict. Particularly when, as here, the information isn't anything that helps.

Right, remind me when BTD has 30 posts, all IIoA cause right now it's a very weak argument.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:45 am

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I care enough about how much IIoA you do to ask, but not enough to bother reading other games, which would be high effort for a really small amount of information.
In post 21, The_Jester wrote:Right, remind me when BTD has 30 posts, all IIoA cause right now it's a very weak argument.
Sure. Page 1 arguments often are. Got a stronger one?

@BTD: do you have any reads?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:07 am

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1) lynch cuphead
if town, cuphead shoot fish

2) lynch nexus
if town, nexus shoot cuphead

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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:08 am

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also: this game better not make it to 30 posts per player
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