In post 19, Fishythefish wrote:@BTD: IIoA as someone's only posts is scummy because it looks like you are doing stuff while avoiding conflict. Particularly when, as here, the information isn't anything that helps.
Right, remind me when BTD has 30 posts, all IIoA cause right now it's a very weak argument.
In post 54, The_Jester wrote:If we assume Nexus is scum, he's likely either paired with Fish (cause of his knee-jerk BTD counterwagon. I don't think BTD's scummy atm. Lynching someone for IIoA never ends well for me) or with EP (it crossed my mind they may be partners hard distancing from the getgo. I do this all the time as scum) but considering I have EP for town right now and Fish still went for BTD when he knew it would get next to zero traction idk
I think the Nexus flip would give us much needed info but I'm not sure we're ready to risk it right now. Help?
but "BTD flip gives us jack shit" is simultaneously very wrong and very scummy to me
This post shows cautiousness. You clearly scumread The Jester, but unvote them. I agree that The Jester's comment is false and not helping the game. Flips are very important, especially in a game like this. But is it more likely to be said by scum or bad Town?
Obviously, scum do indeed have a motive. If The Jester is scum, they want to push the Nexus wagon rather than my wagon. However, Town can very often be very wrong indeed. I would say that this in particular is perhaps more likely to come from Town, as scum may want to say something actively about scumminess (that Nexus is more scummy than me, for example) so as to avoid looking like they have no reasons.
Anyway, you are cautious in this post. Is this Town cautiousness or scum cautiousness? I am inclined to say that this is Town cautiousness (after all, Town have a vested interest in not mislynching too early) as you are clearly stating your scumread and unvoting whereas I would think that scum are more likely to care about not appearing to be voting their strongest scumread (when only they would be voting) and so would either shift votes to someone else or just remain on the wagon. However, this point is much weaker in this game as Town are not expected to be voting immediately, at least not until they are confident. Lynching here would ideally require a broad consensus so cautiousness would seem more reasonable and scum would get away with it much more easily.
BEEP BEEP TOO MANY TOWNREADS ALERT
This is almost a useful post but actually doens't say much
In post 67, The_Jester wrote:BTD's given only townreads till now so it's pretty much the same, amirite
TY
In post 71, The_Jester wrote:I really fucking hate how ok Nexus is being with the BTD lynch when
A)Mislynch and a crappy shot can end it
B)He's hard tunnelled EP from the start, then matched him with me and suddenly he wants to do lynch BTD, gladly riding Fish's wagon. Like what's the reason?
Also this talk about "riding to the deadline" sounds like scum happy about the game stagnating and hoping for a panic last minute lynch.
I'm not a huge fan of BTD right now but Nexus reeks.
NEXUS WHY DID YOU JOIN THE BTD BANDWAGON
EZ Push
In post 72, The_Jester wrote:I think Fish's the only townread I'm feeling right now
so sayeth most of the game
In post 73, The_Jester wrote:Even though I'm not a fan of lynching for IIoA he shows conviction and seems to look for peoples' angles and ways of thinking, this feels towny.
EP has bought me at the beginning but now I'm not so sure. Usually people who pocket me easily and quickly tend to turn out scum. My point about Nexus and his approach to the deadline also sticks to EP. Maybe I'm paranoid but I'm feeling they may be the pair, can't tell if its their chemistry or something more. To sum up, I'm not lynching Fish today and that's about the only thing I'm certain of.
1) That buddy thing was supposed to be me+EP. Now that you think BTD's scum, not EP, what makes you pair him with me? If I'm the common factor, why aren't you trying to lynch me instead?
2) You said your EP scumread was a joke. Was it a joke from the very beggining or did you at some point suspect him?
3) Do you want to lynch BTD solely cause you don't think anyone else will get lynched?
I may not be able to post until much closer to the deadline.
On closer inspection, you haven't said all that much about The Jester in your wall post. Your main point seems to be that The Jester is performing easy pushes. Of course, a large number of your points are irrelevant to this, but this is what I found on deeper analysis. Yet you yourself seem to be making a pretty easy push on The Jester in that post.
"one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714
Dismissing the wall post as 'giving up' is bullshit. If I was giving up I wouldn't have bothered making the post. I was illustrating that the things most people were saying about me = lack of content etc. were equally as applicable to you but you were making it look like you put in more effort, whereas I was very much disengaged town.
If I'm lynched I'm shooting you. Very straightforward.
I'm not dismissing your wall, I'm just saying it doesn't really bring much to the table. If you're indeed town and shoot me, we lose so think on that. This overreaction seems townie though so idk anymore.
Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!
If you genuinely think I'm scum then you'd hammer because that would be the town thing to do. If you don't think I'm scum then you need to quickly create another wagon.
You're the person I've suspected but if you're not scum then who is? I don't think it's fish and I'm not feeling BTD yet. Could be EP but is his lynch doable at this point?
Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!
There's one post that makes me think it may be EP and BTD but not sure I wanna bank on that.
Anyway, there's 2 votes on Nexus and I can't change the lynch alone. Anybody?
Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!
