Micro 765 - Chill Mafia (Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!)

UC Voyager · Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:42 am

yes. i will take this slow

UC Voyager · Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:43 am

I am currently rereading

Mathdino · Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:02 pm

UCV, can I ask that if you do ultimately end up choosing to vote me, that you hold on a minute and ask me questions first?

I'd honestly be 100% okay with you hammering because I know Sleepless is scum for sure. But he'd probably have the same request. idk.

I'm just convinced that if you do think I'm scum after your reread, that you're fundamentally misunderstanding me. So I'd like the chance to defend myself.

UC Voyager · Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:16 pm

In post 277, Mathdino wrote:UCV, can I ask that if you do ultimately end up choosing to vote me, that you hold on a minute and ask me questions first?

I'd honestly be 100% okay with you hammering because I know Sleepless is scum for sure. But he'd probably have the same request. idk.

I'm just convinced that if you do think I'm scum after your reread, that you're fundamentally misunderstanding me. So I'd like the chance to defend myself.

I havn't actually finished rereading. i was about half way through when I was distracted by some housework my dad wanted done!

assuming your town here, other than the fact sleepless is conf scum to you, which of these best describe how you figured out he was scum. vibe, facts, interaction, intentions, tone, or is it something else?

I am waiting for sleepless to post. lol i want to see what he has to say

Mathdino · Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:30 pm

In post 259, Mathdino wrote:

My confirmation was just that I'm in a neighbourhood with Sleepless and he confirmed to me that he knew Wh4t is town [meant "scum" here] based on the advantage that he got. I wanted to just get the day over with.

If this is actually town, this seriously throws Sleepless's alignment into question.

Mathdino · Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:32 pm

I'm done. I made all that up.

UNVOTE: Sleepless

If you're messing with me, UC, you're just gonna continue messing with me.

Mathdino · Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:32 pm

Public Extra Vote: Sleepless

@Mod: Request votecount.

Aeronaut · Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:44 pm

ChillCount 4.1

(expired on 2018-01-12 12:13:00)

[0] Mathdino -

[1]
Sleepless Assassin -

Mathdino
²

[0] UC Voyager -

Not Voting

- UC Voyager, Sleepless Assassin, Mathdino

UC Voyager · Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:51 pm

why would i mess with you when i could easily win the game? there would be absolutely no logic to that.

Mathdino · Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:53 pm

Do you have any guesses as to why I might think you're doing this? There are multiple answers.

UC Voyager · Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:54 pm

im all ears.

Mathdino · Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:58 pm

I would rather you come up with the guesses.

Since I'm confirmed town as I could've just hammered anyone I want with my extra vote, this is now you vs Sleepless.

UC Voyager · Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:04 pm

In post 286, Mathdino wrote:I would rather you come up with the guesses.

Since I'm confirmed town as I could've just hammered anyone I want with my extra vote, this is now you vs Sleepless.

let me guess, oh I just wan't to have some fun or somthing. I don't do that look at my scum games

Oh. im afraid of him being nightkill proof. well thats NK and not lynch.

also. anything that would aply to me could lso aply to you.

I still think your probably town though. i just wanted to hear from sleepess to see what he had to say

UC Voyager · Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:06 pm

also. why did you use your second vote and not your first. lol

Mathdino · Post Post #289 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:07 pm

Okay. So if you're town, why haven't you hammered yet, knowing that I could just immediately double vote you and win?

Mathdino · Post Post #290 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:17 pm

In post 288, UC Voyager wrote:also. why did you use your second vote and not your first. lol

This confirms that I have 2 votes.

Mathdino · Post Post #291 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:34 pm

Yeah okay this is ridiculous.

@Town:

When the neighbourhood thread is released, you can see all the reasons I thought UCV was scum with TNE. It makes way too much sense. I don't know shit about UCV's meta nor do I really care to (he's a replacement so). But the connections are there.

Furthermore, Sleepless Assassin added TNE to his PT D1. If he's scum, this is either a waste of a neighbourize or a brilliant move to manipulate me.

With regards to why UCV didn't quickhammer, I think he knows Sleepless is loved. Because Sleepless pretty obviously said he was loved. From there, and knowing that I must've won last night's poll, it's not a stretch for him to believe that I'm baiting him.

I wish I could blame it on someone else if this is a loss, but I can't. My only real candidates are Hongzi (self-voting is bad), and UCV for being really weird and lynchable I guess. And I guess the reviewers for this setup for thinking that 2v7 is balanced with
A. a single power role given to scum
B. a nightvote mechanic that can benefit scum if both scum just vote for a scum

I lynched Wh4t because Sleepless breadcrumbed "loved" to him and he breadcrumbed it back accidentally. My logic with Sleepless was that Wh4t would be unlynchable on the last day (loved), so we HAD to lynch him the day before LyLo. I'm fairly sure that he was trying to draw the NK away from me by insisting I'm scum. He hoped N_M or UCV would shoot each other. It either worked or backfired completely.

I don't believe Sleepless-scum would go through this massive act of actually caring about our lynch order and breadcrumbing to Wh4t if it were a huge play for me. If he has, well done. Furthermore, I think he would have a better chance of convincing Not_Mafia that UCV is scum than me. N_M doesn't often change reads on a dime.

VOTE: UC Voyager

Good game, all.

Mathdino · Post Post #292 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:35 pm

I'm an idiot.

Extra vote: UC Voyager

Aeronaut · Post Post #293 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:40 pm

ChillCount 4.2

(expired on 2018-01-12 12:13:00)

[0] Mathdino -

[2]
Sleepless Assassin -
Mathdino,
Mathdino
²

[0] UC Voyager -

Not Voting

- UC Voyager, Sleepless Assassin

Aeronaut · Post Post #294 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:41 pm

UC Voyager has been lynched!

Spoiler: He Was

Aeronaut · Post Post #295 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:44 pm

A WIN CONDITION HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, YO!

Spoiler: The Winners

Not_Mafia · Post Post #296 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:48 pm

gg scum, thanks Aeronaut for hosting

Aeronaut · Post Post #297 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:50 pm

Coolsville (Dead Thread)
The Batcave (Mafia PT)
Hood (Sleepless Assassin, TNE, and Mathdino Neighborhood)

Aeronaut · Post Post #298 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:50 pm

Will make scum PT public with permission of UC and TNE.

Mathdino · Post Post #299 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:50 pm

Kudos to UCV for not falling into my trap. Your fatal flaw was your absolutely fucking weird behaviour around the TNE wagon. You'll see where I drew my associations in the neighbourhood thread.

Wh4t played DAMN well. He scumread me for things this game that I would basically have done as scum anyway, but then realised his mistake and continually WIFOM'd the hell out of me. I credit him for me staying alive and winning.

N_M, nice reads.

I'm not really sure what got TNE lynched but yeah the scum this game was weakened by less presence and charisma tbh. The only reason I considered TNE-scum was PoE.

Bragging about this in the geriatric criticism thread. wooooooot

And kudos to the mod for running the first geriatric game ever, and for creating a legitimately good/interesting setup as always!