Micro 825: Only YOU Can Prevent Forest Fires VIII GAME OVER

singletonking · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:27 pm

The thing with this setup is that discussing reads makes it much easier for scum to find the forest

Dunnstral · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:42 pm

I think the trick to this setup is not scumreading people for scumreading the forest, and not being afraid to fake a read on the forest

It really doesn't matter if both pyro's and smokey scumread the forest during the day because the only way they get killed is a pyro attacking them at night - there's no lynches to associate from (But if there were, I'd be voting Sonia for her awkward entrance into this day)

Dunnstral · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:47 pm

Also here's a tip from the few versions of this setup I've read: Pyro usually searches for the forest among the quiet early posters, and they're usually right. It would be good to avoid that trap this game

implosion · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:03 pm

Yeah, people need to not assume that scumreading the forest is scummy. That said, I don't think discussing reads strictly is the most productive thing anyway, unless you have particularly compelling reasons, just because prevention is an individual action; ultimately we have to make ourselves readable in terms of being town or scum, while being indiscernible between being forest/smokey/you.

singletonking · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:16 pm

In post 28, implosion wrote:ultimately we have to make ourselves readable in terms of being town or scum, while being indiscernible between being forest/smokey/you.

That’s the ideal scenario, but is hard to play out in practice.

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:47 am

I’m here! Sorry, busy weekend. I think DDL might be a good candidate for shooting, as would Ari
I think dunnstral is right about reads & strategies

NicoRobin · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:27 am

Oh, it seesm that mod separated players into town pile and scum pile for us already. Thanks mod.

Hear me out, the bottom half of the players as listed in the OP are scum. That's how it is, and that's how it has to be.

NicoRobin · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:27 am

By the way, I am the Forest.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:50 am

I am obv town already so I can post like dis and still win

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:52 am

As the queen I say die

Prevent singletonking

Dunnstral · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:14 am

In post 34, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:As the queen I say die

Prevent singletonking

ok.....

Dunnstral · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:16 am

I think that guy was town, but what do I know

FakeGod · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:58 am

xSoniaNevermindx try to

prevent

singletonking, who was

Smokey

. singletonking

rips

xSoniaNevermindx's head off!

Dunnstral, who was

Forest

, has been

set on fire

!

Pyro Win Condition has been achieved. Endgame incoming.

FakeGod · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:58 am

Irrelephant11 and Pine, aligned with Pyro, win the game!

FakeGod · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:59 am

Lucky shot!

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:00 am

NicoRobin · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:02 am

Out of curiosity, why aren't we allowed to prevent the Forest? It's a viable strategy to mislead the scum, and if we can't mislead the scum, they'll win each and every time, as shown in the game history.......

FakeGod · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:04 am

OYCPFF: Hall of Fame has been updated!

FakeGod · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:04 am

In post 41, NicoRobin wrote:Out of curiosity, why aren't we allowed to prevent the Forest? It's a viable strategy to mislead the scum, and if we can't mislead the scum, they'll win each and every time, as shown in the game history.......

If you prevent the Forest, you are killing the Forest and playing against your win con.

NicoRobin · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:10 am

In post 43, FakeGod wrote:
In post 41, NicoRobin wrote:Out of curiosity, why aren't we allowed to prevent the Forest? It's a viable strategy to mislead the scum, and if we can't mislead the scum, they'll win each and every time, as shown in the game history.......
If you prevent the Forest, you are killing the Forest and playing against your win con.

Well, letting scum win every single time is also playing against our win-con......

NicoRobin · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:10 am

Could you please quote or link the place where it says preventing the Forest kills them?

Aristophanes · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:12 am

WELP!!!

Nice shot Scum!

FakeGod · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:14 am

In post 45, NicoRobin wrote:Could you please quote or link the place where it says preventing the Forest kills them?

I can quote you the place where it says preventing the Forest gets the smartass YOU blacklisted.

singletonking · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:27 am

...
I was scumreading Irrelephant

NicoRobin · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:27 am

In post 47, FakeGod wrote:
In post 45, NicoRobin wrote:Could you please quote or link the place where it says preventing the Forest kills them?
I can quote you the place where it says preventing the Forest gets the smartass YOU blacklisted.

That doesn't explicitly denote that preventing the Forest gets them killed.

Anyway, can you add another mechanic that prevents scum from figuring out who the Forest is so easily? Otherwise, scum will win this kind of game every single time, and that's not fun either.....