Micro 839: Two-in-One (its over)

[Errantparabola]

Double the game, double the chaos, half the fun.
The creators of the smash hit (not really) Three-in-One bring you the scintillating sequel...

Micro 839: Two-in-One

The setups in question are Carbon 14 and Bird 7P. They are simple setups and I recommend you familiarize yourself with them.

THE PLAYERS, ORGANIZED BY CHARACTER LENGTH:
1. Pine
2. Taly
3. xyzzy
4. Elsa Jay
5. Persivul
6. Irrelephant11
7. Maki Harukawa

Spoiler: STILL IN THIS GAME

1. Pine
2. Taly
3. xyzzy
4. Elsa Jay
5. Persivul
6. Irrelephant11
7. Maki Harukawa

Spoiler: CARBON 14: THE DEAD

Elsa Jay,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated D1.
Maki Harukawa,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated N1.
Pine,

Town Seer

, eliminated D2.
Werewolves win.

Spoiler: BIRD 7: THE DEAD

xyzzy,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated N1.
Taly,

Mafia Goon

, eliminated D2.
Town wins.

Spoiler: MODKILLED

made ya look

[Errantparabola]

RULES:

Conduct:

-

Know and follow the site rules.

- I prefer questions and V/LA announcements by PM. If in-thread, do so on a separate line in bold.
- Don’t post after you’re dead.
- Don’t use

my color, #BF00FF

or attempt to impersonate me.
- I should be able to readily see all communication. (No untitled spoilers, obfuscation, discussing game outside of approved areas, etc.)

Playing the Game:

- Post about every 48 hours or prod. 3 prods or 24 hours after a prod and I will resort to replacement and if necessary, modkill.
- 14 day Day Phases. 48 hour Night Phases.
- Majority vote leads to lynch. Majority to vote "no lynch" leads to no lynch. No majority leads to no lynch.

Notes:

If rules change or are ambiguous, I will do my best to be fair. I reserve the right to make a judgment on any attempts to break the game or abuse a loophole.
Games get heated, but I will interfere if I consider the limit to be crossed.
If you aren’t sure whether or not something will violate the rules, ask.
If you see someone violating the rules, let me know.

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Playing Two-in-One:

- As long as you are alive, you may post in the game thread or your scumtopic about either game.
- Each game is in a vacuum (no mechanical actions can effect the outcome of the other game).
- If you are killed the night you investigate, you will not receive the result.
- To vote for someone, you must specify which game you are voting in.

Examples for C14 voting include

VOTE 1: EP

,

C14 VOTE: EP

, VOTE: 1 EP
Examples for Bird7 voting include

VOTE 2: EP

,

B7 VOTE: EP

, VOTE: 2 EP

I have not used the same exact wording as the role PMs on the wiki. If it comes up, I will provide the role PMs of every role in the game, but come on, let's just not make any arguments related to PM wording. Let's just keep it cool and casual. I'm lazy.

[Errantparabola]

Role PMs are out.

Confirm your roles to me. Once everyone confirms I will unlock the thread.

Votecount 1.0

C14

Not Voting

(7): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Not Voting

(7): Pine, Taly, xyzzy, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Irrelephant11, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2019-01-02 17:37:00)

[Irrelephant11]

1 vote: Persivul

2 vote: Persivul

Hello again!

[xyzzy]

VOTE: C14 Maki Harukawa
VOTE: B7 Maki Harukawa

please join my wagons

[xyzzy]

irrelephant you coward please join the maki wagon

[Irrelephant11]

Um rude but sure

Doublevote: Maki

[Irrelephant11]

I don’t know how to make sure my scumreads die in the correct game
Has this sort of setup ever been run

[Elsa Jay]

That's weird... But hey, it's an ice breaker topic thing.

I believe we should lynch 2 separate people for each game instead of double vote for the same person. Who here agrees or disagrees?

[Irrelephant11]

Which thing is weird?
I think I agree but also I kind of feel like that’s a scummy suggestion

[xyzzy]

I think day 1 we should just lynch the scummiest person in both games

[Irrelephant11]

Like in an ideal world we wouldn’t lynch town in one game just to make sure they as scum died in the other game
But I can also see scum motivation in saying “only lynch me in one game, not both”
How’s this for a compromise:

B7 Vote: Elsa Jay

[Elsa Jay]

That defeats the purpose of someone being able to talk in the thread even if they're dead in one game.

And no, voting me in 1 game doesn't help the situation.

VOTE: B7 Irrelephant

[Irrelephant11]

I mean it’s less fun but he might be right that it’s better play
Why are you voting me?

[Elsa Jay]

Because you implied I'd be happy only dying in 1 game. Both games are separate and dying in either hurts that game. I don't want that, and throwing shade at me not liking your idea is a weird opening move.

[Irrelephant11]

I didn’t imply you’d be happy getting lynched; I very clearly stated I saw scum motivation for your post (but also potential town motivation) and since I can split my vote to match my split mindset, I voted you in one game.

Literally where did I suggest you’d be happy getting lynched?
And where did I throw shade at you for not liking my idea?

[Elsa Jay]

There's no scum motivation, it's a townie in both games going "holy crap why lose a townie in 2 games when we're in a 7p".

[xyzzy]

dead scum being able to continue offering input on the game where they died isn't good for town

[Elsa Jay]

A confirmed townie being able to offer input in a game they are dead in is invaluable even if they cant vote, fuzzy. Why get rid of the unique mechanic like that?

[Irrelephant11]

There's no scum motivation, it's a townie in both games going "holy crap why lose a townie in 2 games when we're in a 7p".

I mean you can say there’s no scum motivation, doesn’t make it true
I also sort of scumread how you’re saying “when I set out to mislynch a townie in one game I don’t want to also lose a fellow townie in the other game”

[Elsa Jay]

Okay. Let's use your idea and see what happens at L-1 in both games.

Person at L-1: I claim Seer/Cop/Macho Cop/Doctor in Carbon 14/Bird 7p.

What the fuck do you do then? Or, even better, they're the PR in 1 game but scum in the other?

You just screwed one of the games over big time.

[Irrelephant11]

I mean duh you don’t lynched a non-cc’d PR claim in a micro
But if someone claims double-vt how do you decide which game to lynch them in

[Elsa Jay]

You're missing the point. Even if you hang scum in 1 game, their input in the other is probably that of a townies. You tell me the odds of someone rolling 2/7 scum in both games.

You dont get rid of the mechanic just because it makes the game harder. We lynch separately and decide if we see any connections between people. We have 2 separate scum teams, after all.

Hell, if we leave the flipped scum alive in the other game that they're townie in, they could slip and reveal their partner by mixing up the games.

I cant decide the night whatever the scum do, but I want there to still be 7 of us tommorow discussing this shit.

[Irrelephant11]

But how do you decide which game to lynch a person in D1?

[Elsa Jay]

That's what day 1 discussion is for. Holy jeebus it's not that hard of a concept to grasp.