Micro 845: The Room Odds - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm afraid to hammer that Get a Room because SS and Myself for one were tied for the second highest chance of being paired as a scum team (if I am reading the chart correctly), and SS and I have pulled a crazy scum gambit early like that before.

I feel like you're trying to frame me already, haha.

Welp, might as well test the waters.

Get A Room: Something_Smart and Flavor Leaf

Get a Room

Something_Smart, Flavor Leaf (3): Something_Smart, Dunnstral, Flavor Leaf

(R-0)

Not Voting (6): tris, Plotinus, Clemency, Gamma Emerald, Persivul, Ruby Red

It takes 2n-1 votes to get a n player Room.

Something_Smart

and

Flavor Leaf

have gotten a room.

This seems rather stupid

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Since the rooms stay open for the whole game, it is optimal to create as many as possible. We should do one batch of 4 rooms now, then another batch of 4 rooms when the post restrictions expire, and then a final room when those post restrictions expire.

Get a room: Plotinus, tris

This interferes with in-thread interaction though. Hard pass on this plan.

[Gamma Emerald]

It only interferes with interaction for 96 hours per game day, but we get the rooms for the whole game.

Besides, the room mechanic is cool. Let's use it

I guess. I can actually see town utility given how short that is. Don't want to blow my plan yet, but if it becomes important I'll bring it up.

Get a room: Gamma, Persivul, Dunnstral

[Gamma Emerald]

btw I wanna ask this

@mod what happens if only town deflector and a mafia goon are alive at night?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma - you ready to be locked into a room with 2 scum?

I can take it. I've been in a hood with you when you were scum!

[Gamma Emerald]

I just sheeped onto the plan. Did we hit 2 scum with the three? Is it you and Dunn?

That would make sense why you were the only one sketched out about the room idea.

If I were scum I'd love a 2/3 room - would likely be pretty easy to pocket the townie.

Oh you'd think I'd be easy to pocket, think again fool. Flavor taught me to be on guard.

[Gamma Emerald]

wait was there an rqs? Not like there's any need for it rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Everything I do is for a purpose.

Why just randomly post this?

[Gamma Emerald]

So randomly chiming in. I mean I do that irl but why do that there, S_S?

[Gamma Emerald]

What I meant was S_S wasn’t involved as a point of discussion, he just added in something related out of the blue

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright. Cos the Role PMs imply otherwise.

[Gamma Emerald]

So I kinda have reads rn
Should be posting in room soon

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd take a room with Clemency tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

get a room: gamma emerald, clemency

alright then!

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m of the mind the 3-man should be splitting out to find single partners and the leftovers from that should form another 3-man

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry, didn't get around to this last night.

VOTE: Something_Smart, you haven't really been saying much here in the main thread.

Have or have they not been saying things in their room though?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you're not supposed to directly interact, discussing the person is fine

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma - What’s going on your PT?

Which one?

[Gamma Emerald]

Get a Room: Plotinus, Flavour Leaf

Point 1: Across the games that I've moderated with this setup,

70% of scum players complained in public about rooms

. Town were usually enthusiastic about them or at least neutral, though a few townies struggled to keep up if they were in fewer rooms than most people.

Is the scum team {pers, dunn, ruby}?

If not, you're using a stat disingenuously to push me, probably because I made a case on you to which you haven't responded.

Point 2:

Selective listening

: When Persivul is trying to smear somebody and it turns out that his point is false, he completely ignores this information. For example, in 178-183, he ignores the clarification that Clemency's post restriction was 5 minutes away from expiring when I made that comment, so what I and Clemency understood my comment to mean was "I don't expect an answer in the next five minutes, but when you're free to talk about, please tell me..."

Except that had nothing to do with my case on you. I just think your attitude and wording was rude.

He also continues to act like it's scummy that I'm pushing rooms when I've clarified multiple times that having modded this setup gives me insight into what the best strategy for town is. He has to do this because he knows that rooms are making it harder for him to control the game as scum.

He's not trying to find out the truth, he's just trying to push his agenda.

Continues to act like it's scummy? I made one point about your push for rooms being scummy: 220 "His first post is bad. I get using rooms for a reason. But, just making rooms to make rooms eventually sows confusion, and that benefits scum."

Note that I was paraphrasing an argument that I had made several days previously in a room, and that referred to your first post on rooms. My main reason for scum reading you is your push on Dunn, as is apparent in that post.

After you clarified your reasoning on rooms, I actually agreed with you in part: 106 "Huh? Plot wants rooms with a specific purposes: "for town to have places to work together out of scum's eyes,: and to "scumhunt people in private differently from you can scumhunt them in public."

I agree with the first

,"

So, you're misrepping me when you act as if I'm inflexible in my assessment of your position on rooms.

Point 3:

Tone

. Persivul tends to use a different tone when he's town than when he's scum.

Do you have examples?

I had both a town game and a scum game end yesterday:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77928
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=78139

Please, show how my tone in this game is clearly the same as my tone in the scum game, and clearly different from the tone in the town game.

I've been a little nasty in this game. Anyone who bothers to read these is going to see I wasn't like that at all in the scum game, but did show some snark in the town game.

So, either your memory is bad, your meta is out of date, or you're just making things up because I'm pushing you.

I was townreading Persivul by hood posting but his response here killed that
Especially the first part, scum don’t have to be in that set for one scum to complain about rooms being set up. That’s some very blatantly wrong logic.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are people suspecting Clem, and also Ruby, why do you think the team is me and Clem?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma - What’s going on your PT?

Which one?

I’m more concerned about the three person one with Dunn/Persivul.

I asked Pers and Dunn for reads on slots I wanted to see their opinions on, they provided, then Pers asked for mine and flipped his shit when I wanted to room with Clem.
As for the Clem one it’s me just conversating and discussing reads casually p much

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are people suspecting Clem, and also Ruby, why do you think the team is me and Clem?

i don't

i just think you're both decent votes. nothing about you two being partnered

Answer the other question? Just because I direct one at you doesn’t mean you ignore the one towards everyone.

[Gamma Emerald]

what he said

Why do you not seem interested in voting me?