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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:28 am
by TTTT
also if it's not clear
I 0% believe you

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:29 am
by Pink Ball
Clem being active after doing nothing during D1 and 2 it's pretty much it, he's probably waiting for his partner to come in and quick vote me since Purr voted me

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:29 am
by Pink Ball
If I were scum I would be pushing Purr for gods sake.

Pedit cause I got a no result on Doughboy

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:36 am
by Pink Ball
In post 725, TTTT wrote:also if it's not clear
I 0% believe you
If you're going to be like this just fucking vote me and let Clem hammer me by himself

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:37 am
by Clemency
i'm playing warframe

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:45 am
by Purrcocet
UNVOTE:

wen u want to lynch tel me

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:22 am
by Pink Ball
Thank you, my level of anxiety was over 9000

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:04 pm
by Succinct
In post 730, Purrcocet wrote:UNVOTE:
wen u want to lynch tel me
My thoughts're similar.
Mechanically, at least one of these is false:
  • Clemency's a VT
  • Doughboy's neighborize failed (I know this happened)
  • Pink Ball's investigative failed
Overwhelmingly, Pink Ball's play suggests he's the faker.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:29 am
by Pink Ball
I think that, if Clem's a VT, the "scumteam" had enough time to organize a quicklynch, so it's pretty much caught scum and Succint is lying and supporting his partner

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:25 am
by TTTT
^classic overuse of commas scum-tell

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:25 am
by TTTT
that's a joke btw

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:26 am
by TTTT
@pink - if you are town
walk me through the claims
and explain how they make sense from your town POV

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:28 am
by TTTT
@Clem
where are u with all of this?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:42 am
by Clemency
In post 737, TTTT wrote:@Clem
where are u with all of this?
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:42 am
by Clemency
i dont have anything original to say atm so i'm just gonna watch this unfold

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:02 am
by Pink Ball
In post 736, TTTT wrote:@pink - if you are town
walk me through the claims
and explain how they make sense from your town POV
From a gunsmith PoV: I would expect to be 1-2 players with guns so I wouldn't be certain about a guilty. From the flipped players, there was an ascetic vig, so that doesn't count; the only flipped player with a gun is the flavor cop, so my role should be conftown due to the flavor cop existence. If hawk would've been a plain cop, the existence of my claim would be much more sketchy, since a cop with a gunsmith is too much power; but a flavor cop that gives you the encore song of a player is not a full investigative as a cop is. Doughboy's reaction to the mini massclaim was damning: he just got pissed and went full aggro mode when that happened 'cause the only way to win this game from his perspective was creating WIFOM around the claims. Remember his statement: "there can't be that many town PRs, both Pink Ball and Purrcocet are lying/are scum", basically aligning lynches, so that's what makes me think Purrcocet is clear. Doughboy was already proven wrong, since schadd was a doctor, so there ARE a lot of town PRs in the game.

The neighborizer makes sense for scum PR 'cause you can get some useful townreads and, if you play it nicely, get some PR claims if the neighborized player trust you enough. So a neighborizer combined with a roleblocker (confirmed since I didn't get a result) is a nice convo to roleblock the PRs that the neighborizer catch and kill whoever else. Succint claiming early D3 that he couldn't neighborize Clem was a must, 'cause he knew I was going to reveal the existence of the roleblocker, so he's just following what Doughboy was doing: antagonizing me. And saying that Clem was the one he targeted is something to look at too: you can't neighborize your scum partner, so he's just distancing there.

tl;dr: Doughboy's reaction to the mini massclaim was damning. My role makes sense from town perspective. Purrcocet is town from Doughboy's reaction and because a roleblocker with a double voter doesn't make sense from the town PRs we got; neighborizer makes much more sense.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:39 am
by TTTT
In post 739, Clemency wrote:i dont have anything original to say atm so i'm just gonna watch this unfold
I've seen you be solvey when it matters
it matters now

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:40 am
by TTTT
@Purrc - please give your thoughts on Pink's post above

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:48 am
by TTTT
Is there any reason why everybody shouldn't just claim their flavor and song?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:49 am
by TTTT
@Purcc - I want your full role-name

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:55 am
by TTTT
so the only reason I have any doubt about Doughboy/Succint is that schadd was JOAT (1-Doctor, 1-Friendly Neighbor)
would town have both a 2-shot neighborizer AND a 1-shot friendly neighbor?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:19 am
by Clemency
In post 741, TTTT wrote:
In post 739, Clemency wrote:i dont have anything original to say atm so i'm just gonna watch this unfold
I've seen you be solvey when it matters
it matters now
i'm thinking dammit
i'm leaning towards the purr/pink theory atm

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:26 am
by Clemency
In post 745, TTTT wrote:so the only reason I have any doubt about Doughboy/Succint is that schadd was JOAT (1-Doctor, 1-Friendly Neighbor)
would town have both a 2-shot neighborizer AND a 1-shot friendly neighbor?
i thought dough neighbourized you? or am i misremembering

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:16 am
by TTTT
he did
that doesn't make him town

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:43 am
by Clemency
fair fair fair fair fair