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i heard the window break.

wheat crops: 31

32 wheat crops were harvested.

lynch

Eragon (2):

Ausuka, lazyreads

tosser (1):

Slaxx

Pink Ball (1):

Eragon

Invisibility (1):

tosser

Slaxx (1):

Pink Ball

Ausuka (1):

Ankamius

Ankamius (1):

Invisibility

not voting (1):

skitter30

doctor

Invisibility (3):

skitter30, Slaxx, Invisibility

skitter30 (1):

Eragon

not voting (5):

Pink Ball, Ankamius, tosser, lazyreads, Ausuka

• skitter is vla fridays. and saturdays.

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Wow schadd

So I’m having trouble reconciling the dissonance in

“It’s a distraction and probably doesn’t matter” and “I’m going to go against the grain and harvest”

Also, please answer me. What about the flavor makes a high number anti town?

In post 277, Slaxx wrote:So I’m having trouble reconciling the dissonance in

“It’s a distraction and probably doesn’t matter” and “I’m going to go against the grain and harvest”

Also, please answer me. What about the flavor makes a high number anti town?

What's dissonant about the two statements? I stated that the mechanic was derailing the game and despite the evidence provided to us saying that harvesting doesn't matter beyond changing the number of crops, we're heading in a direction where we are more worried with coordinating who gets to do the harvest instead of getting accurate reads.

Dont you find that ridiculous?

Regarding the flavor, I misread the yellow as being something different than it actually is

In post 278, Ankamius wrote:

In post 277, Slaxx wrote:So I’m having trouble reconciling the dissonance in

“It’s a distraction and probably doesn’t matter” and “I’m going to go against the grain and harvest”

Also, please answer me. What about the flavor makes a high number anti town?

What's dissonant about the two statements? I stated that the mechanic was derailing the game and despite the evidence provided to us saying that harvesting doesn't matter beyond changing the number of crops, we're heading in a direction where we are more worried with coordinating who gets to do the harvest instead of getting accurate reads.

Dont you find that ridiculous?

no we werent

Read that statement again Invis

In post 278, Ankamius wrote:

In post 277, Slaxx wrote:So I’m having trouble reconciling the dissonance in

“It’s a distraction and probably doesn’t matter” and “I’m going to go against the grain and harvest”

Also, please answer me. What about the flavor makes a high number anti town?

What's dissonant about the two statements? I stated that the mechanic was derailing the game and despite the evidence provided to us saying that harvesting doesn't matter beyond changing the number of crops, we're heading in a direction where we are more worried with coordinating who gets to do the harvest instead of getting accurate reads.

Dont you find that ridiculous?

I find it ridiculous that you thought the wheat was a distraction despite my not subtle hinting otherwise and thought that harvesting it when everyone else was fine keeping it as is wouldn’t correct MORE of a distraction.

In post 279, Ankamius wrote:Regarding the flavor, I misread the yellow as being something different than it actually is

You’re gonna have to clarify there, I’m not buying that

We were literally migrating away from wheat talk and towards game talk

I don’t buy any of this.

In post 282, Slaxx wrote:

In post 278, Ankamius wrote:

In post 277, Slaxx wrote:So I’m having trouble reconciling the dissonance in

“It’s a distraction and probably doesn’t matter” and “I’m going to go against the grain and harvest”

Also, please answer me. What about the flavor makes a high number anti town?

What's dissonant about the two statements? I stated that the mechanic was derailing the game and despite the evidence provided to us saying that harvesting doesn't matter beyond changing the number of crops, we're heading in a direction where we are more worried with coordinating who gets to do the harvest instead of getting accurate reads.

Dont you find that ridiculous?

I find it ridiculous that you thought the wheat was a distraction despite my not subtle hinting otherwise and thought that harvesting it when everyone else was fine keeping it as is wouldn’t correct MORE of a distraction.

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Fine, I'll just out.

There has to be more to the wheat mechanic because otherwise my role doesn't make any sense. And if the two ARE linked, then it's very likely there are other links that I don't trust to be good for town.

Does this make more sense?

I’m so confused.

So you’re in agreement the wheat mechanic is important?

Was the past posting all bluster?

Don’t reveal anymore about the role.

In post 287, Slaxx wrote:I’m so confused.

So you’re in agreement the wheat mechanic is important?

Was the past posting all bluster?

Don’t reveal anymore about the role.

I think high levels of wheat is bad for town, yes.

I was trying to push town away from that idea without revealing any role info because then scum either abandon the mechanic entirely or look to push back against it, both of which would be a tipoff to how the setup is constructed.

I just mangled the explanation too badly for that gambit to work sadly

Okay, so, I’ve done went and fucked myself.

So I know nothing about the wheat mechanic at all.

It was just a ploy to draw the night kill while also generating information. I’m a bit overgamed but don’t like replacing out. I didn’t expect it to actually be relevant and now I have to decide what to make of this soft claim from Ank. If wheat numbers are actually bad for town (I’m still not for sure if I believe this claim?) then I guess I deserve to be lynched lol.

My initial thought that was of wheat did anything, it would be pro town, because it would reward cooperation. The higher the number the better. Which is why I didn’t approach the game warning everyone not to grow the wheat.

Sooooo.

Yeah...

Tbh I don't think you're scum for that, the way you went about that from beginning of end is riskier than scum would want to be out of the gates I think

UNVOTE:

Man

Idk

I’ll reread the thread in a day or two.

Either way, Ausuka and Eragon had the scummiest responses to the mechanic. Invisibility is town for other reasons and I'm not entirely sure about Skitter. Tosser I'm unsure about since he was almost reluctant to fuel the wheat farm, which can go both ways.

In post 251, Ankamius wrote:Btw

Harvest the wheat crop

oh no

In post 264, Ankamius wrote:Because when I first started reading the game, it was already derailing the game and I don't see a reason for it to be relevant to the game in the first place?

im assujming that the question youre answering is "why did you harvest the crops". why would you think that you harvesting the crops is likely to get people to stop focusing on ti instead of focusing more on it given your action

okay nevermind i feel bad for posting before reading ahead because i hate hate it when other people do that and ask questions that get answered like in the very next post

In post 249, Pink Ball wrote:

In post 244, lazyreads wrote:

In post 218, Pink Ball wrote:Why telling ausuka that something he does pings me as scum and ask him about it is scummy? That doesn't make sense.

Also if I were scum I would've looked at ausuka's towngames to see kf he did that as town to see if it was worth pushing him for it. But as you can see, I wasn't trying to push him, rather sort him

/water our wheat crops

why wouldnt you do that as town if you would do it as scum

I would do it as scum 'cause I'd be looking how to push someone. I wouldn't do it as town 'cause I'm not looking for pushing someone, I'm just asking him which is less job than going through his meta

i still dont think this makes sense but it probably doesnt matter all that much

In post 256, Slaxx wrote:So yeah, a myriad of reasons. Any reason they’d do it as town?

he really believes it

based off of things i would guess that there is one scum in pink ball, slaxx, ankamius and one scum in skitter, Eragon, tosser

not really sure on the first group, maybe pink ball, second group i would guess eragon

if ank is scum and is lying about high wheat being bad for town whe nrealy its bad for scum then i would think that proximitys scumbuddy would have already done someting to try to stop the growth of wheat

so i think ank is town unless shes scum with tosser maybe

In post 234, tosser wrote:well as i said my original vote was just because i felt his style annoying it wasn't a scumread. i don't feel like unvoting now though based on how he reacted and the subsequent obfuscation when i prodded him

i don't really feel like anything he did afterwards was scummy tho
i don't think he was purposefully obfuscating anywhere really

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In post 240, schadd_ wrote:ankamius replaces proximity

hello!

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In post 242, lazyreads wrote:VOTE: eragon

i guess the reason why i don't mind eragon's posting rn is that the last time i played with him he was scum and he was very very try-hard-y and he's good at knowing how to sound townie as scum; he was my top townread there for a while. here i don't feel like he particularly cares how he's perceived

i'm aware that i've never played with town!him and that i don't know what his towngame looks like, and that he might be trying to change his playstyle if he's scum again here given that there's a fair amount of overlapping player list

overall my feeling tho is that he isn't trying to be read in a particular way, which does feel different from his last scumgame

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In post 254, Ankamius wrote:Lazyreads is town.

yeah i'm tending that way too

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In post 269, Ankamius wrote:Do you think he ignored it because they are scumpartners

i don't know if he ignored it because they're scumpartners, but i think vizzy might sometimes give off a vibe as being an easy place to push; i'm a little skeptical of votes that end up on vizzy because of his playstyle, especially when i'm pretty sure he's playing his town!meta

i don't really have an opinion on tosser/eragon

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In post 289, Slaxx wrote:It was just a ploy to draw the night kill while also generating information. I’m a bit overgamed but don’t like replacing out. I didn’t expect it to actually be relevant and now I have to decide what to make of this soft claim from Ank. If wheat numbers are actually bad for town (I’m still not for sure if I believe this claim?) then I guess I deserve to be lynched lol.

huh
i thought you were softing a wheat-related pr tbh
i think you're prob town

i think the soft-claim is probably true but idk if it's ai or not;
(or, more accurately, i belive that ank probably has a role related to wheat in some way, and that whatever her alignment she doesn't want the wheat numbers to be too high. idk whether that mean that she thinks high wheat is bad for town - and is therefore cautioning town against it - or that she thinks high wheat is bad for scum - and is therefore cautioning town against it)

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In post 292, Ankamius wrote:Either way, Ausuka and Eragon had the scummiest responses to the mechanic. Invisibility is town for other reasons and I'm not entirely sure about Skitter. Tosser I'm unsure about since he was almost reluctant to fuel the wheat farm, which can go both ways.

idk what are you unsure about me?

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In post 298, lazyreads wrote:if ank is scum and is lying about high wheat being bad for town whe nrealy its bad for scum then i would think that proximitys scumbuddy would have already done someting to try to stop the growth of wheat

so i think ank is town unless shes scum with tosser maybe

this is townie

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i think town: vizzy, lazyreads, slaxx, probably in that order

so scum is in: eragon, pink ball, tosser, ank, ausuka

also the vc is really ugly

also VOTE: tosser