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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 1246, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1243, Enter wrote:i'm rally just trying to explore ms/shoshin

i'm trying to find counter-arguments to this theory
Besides the fact that I don't play scum like this, me unvoting Sau when MS could have hammered should make it pretty clear your theory is wrong.
MS said earlier that if paragons guess who scum are scum lose
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:55 am

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=> no quickhammer will happen
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:57 am

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Also, Michael Scott has no posts in the game thread past 1099, which is when Saudade was at L-1.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:57 am

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If I'm scum with MS, I keep my vote on Sau until MS hammers him, not dismantle the wagon while waiting on RC to convince me on a different wagon.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:58 am

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I push Shoshin as scum w/ possible associative of RC, and Shoshin defends RC, not herself

I push Shoshin as scum w/ possible associative of Michael Scott, and the fact that he defends himself instead of pushing shoshin also feels off.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:58 am

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If I were scum in this setup, I'd hammer a town if given the opportunity. Why would I let that slip away?
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:59 am

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In post 1253, Shoshin wrote:If I'm scum with MS, I keep my vote on Sau until MS hammers him, not dismantle the wagon while waiting on RC to convince me on a different wagon.
you didn't dismantle the wagon, urap did.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:59 am

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In post 1255, Shoshin wrote:If I were scum in this setup, I'd hammer a town if given the opportunity. Why would I let that slip away?
because right now i'm convinced you two are scum and if i guess you correctly you lose

and if you quickhammer him i guarantee i wont have a hard time convnincng my buddies i'm right on you two when saudade flips town
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:01 am

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Also want to point out that you're not playing like you did in 8-ball.

in 8-ball you pushed saudade and then considered other players as a possibility, pushing eslewhere to expand your reads

your case was small and basic and you spent the rest of the game trying to convince

here you wrote quite a bit of worsdd for a very small case and you spend more time trying to prove the validity of your case than you do actually pushing saudade
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:02 am

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also i'm claiming town

anyone not town reading me after the amount of effort i've put in this game is scum
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 1256, Enter wrote:
In post 1253, Shoshin wrote:If I'm scum with MS, I keep my vote on Sau until MS hammers him, not dismantle the wagon while waiting on RC to convince me on a different wagon.
you didn't dismantle the wagon, urap did.
Are you reading the same game as me?

I unvoted Sau. U2 followed after me while saying he'd hammer Sau if that were a thing again.

If I'm scum with MS, all we have to do is vote Sau with U2. This game would be over.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:05 am

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Fwiw I think Shoshin urap is more likely than Shoshin MS right now
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:06 am

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In post 1258, Enter wrote:Also want to point out that you're not playing like you did in 8-ball.

in 8-ball you pushed saudade and then considered other players as a possibility, pushing eslewhere to expand your reads

your case was small and basic and you spent the rest of the game trying to convince

here you wrote quite a bit of worsdd for a very small case and you spend more time trying to prove the validity of your case than you do actually pushing saudade
Suka was an experimental play style, and this is a LYLO-type situation which I treat very differently than normal.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:08 am

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In post 1260, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1256, Enter wrote:
In post 1253, Shoshin wrote:If I'm scum with MS, I keep my vote on Sau until MS hammers him, not dismantle the wagon while waiting on RC to convince me on a different wagon.
you didn't dismantle the wagon, urap did.
Are you reading the same game as me?

I unvoted Sau. U2 followed after me while saying he'd hammer Sau if that were a thing again.

If I'm scum with MS, all we have to do is vote Sau with U2. This game would be over.
sorry i missed the part where you unvoted first

my b

however u2 did not say he'd hammer saudade if saudade ever got to l-1 again

you might be thinking of this post:
In post 1157, Saudade wrote:if Shoshin by chance gets to 2 votes somehow im insta hammering that shit

not sure if you'er trying to skew intentionally or not
In post 1261, RadiantCowbells wrote:Fwiw I think Shoshin urap is more likely than Shoshin MS right now
that's possible
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:08 am

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I don't think Enter's description of my play as Suka is accurate at all.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:09 am

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In post 1264, Shoshin wrote:I don't think Enter's description of my play as Suka is accurate at all.
i might have used bad words

but your play is very different here than it was as suka

you were a lot more confident when you were town
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:10 am

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In post 1161, u r a person 2 wrote:if sau gets 2 votes ill hammer it npnp
Read the game, Enter.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:10 am

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I'm more confident when there's more room for error. And my confidence levels vary a lot from game to game. And Suka was different than my normal play style either way.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:12 am

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ugh. ok don't know how i missed that

still game would be over sure but it would be over with you losing
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:12 am

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With all due respect, enter is going to have a strong control over paragons if the game goes down that direction. Singleton and I can barely keep up. If your town, you better be able to work with him since he has taken the mount as figure head.

Take that for what you will.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:13 am

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I could care less if Enter loses.
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:14 am

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In post 1270, Shoshin wrote:I could care less if Enter loses.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:15 am

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In post 1270, Shoshin wrote:I could care less if Enter loses.
That’s fine. I’m just giving a heads up is all.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:16 am

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I could believe Shoshin/URAP, I think.

I like Shoshin/MS more, though...

I will look at it more closely in a few hours.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:27 am

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In post 1252, Enter wrote:Also, Michael Scott has no posts in the game thread past 1099, which is when Saudade was at L-1.
well, he went to bed, right?

this is almost certainly nai
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