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[northsidegal]

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Private Threads

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Mod Thread | Mafia PT | Public Survey | Editorial Section | Dead Thread | Design PT

D1:
RC / SS Interview | RC / Skygazer Interview | RC / singletonking Interview

D2:
RC / Skygazer Interview II | Paperboy Neighborhood

D3:
RC / Skygazer Interview III | RC / Nimueh Interview | RC / Skygazer Interview IV

[Nimueh]

Gg everyone! Thanks for modding nsg.

SS, I caught you because your refutations of my case on you was bs and you had really suspicious interactions with Lion, who was obvscum. You’re bs leash on Single, was what ultimately damned you.

[Lycanfire]

i'm still not sure what i was meant to review, this was already rocketing through the queue by the time i had pt access

[northsidegal]

i'm still not sure what i was meant to review, this was already rocketing through the queue by the time i had pt access

yeah sorry i think bnl pulled his game which i didn't expect and alisae had already passed

[northsidegal]

Anyways, a few thoughts: thanks everyone for making this a really fun game to both mod and follow along with. Across the board I'm pretty happy with the way that people used their roles and for the most part I think (at least, i hope) that people enjoyed the roles.

I think this is definitely up there in terms of the best games I've modded.



I have a few ideas for the next thing I'll mod, so I figured I'd ask you guys what you wanted to play. I think almost everyone really likes the idea of the Public Surveyor role so I've thought about potentially designing an entire game where everyone has the chance to do that.

Another thing I was considering was just running a sequel to this game: there are a few ideas that I cut for this game and a few that I came up with as the game went on, so combined with potential tweaks to the roles from this game as well as the fact that by the setup design any role can theoretically be scum, I think there's replayability here if people enjoyed the setup and/or concept. Maybe even as a mini theme.

Alternatively, some completely different game, more mechanics based than communication based.

[Lycanfire]

you should run nightless game with arsonists, preferably 50p

[northsidegal]

but if i make it nightless then i can't treestump people and yet keep up activity requirements for them, not allowing them the merciful release of death

or maybe i can do that anyways

[RadiantCowbells]

town should really have had more power than a 1-shot cop

[OkaPoka]

i liked theme : )

[Nimueh]

town should really have had more power than a 1-shot cop

+1

Also, make majority vote 6 not 5. It put me way too close to being mislynched.

[northsidegal]

on the subject of balance:

i think public cop is a lot more powerful than just a regular cop and is actually more EV-raising than people might give it credit for. removes a potential mislynch, creates an IC and forces a scum kill all in one.

apart from that, mathdino constantly argued with me when we were designing mini 2000 that the public surveyor role was actually really powerful for town (moreso than i was giving it credit for), and i have actually come around to somewhat agree with him. all of the players that skygazer recruited basically had the game solved

even if you don't think that any of the other roles than the public cop added any town EV, i felt relatively okay with having a slightly scumsided setup if that were to be the case

Also, make majority vote 6 not 5. It put me way too close to being mislynched.

unfortunately i cannot change the definition of what a majority is

[northsidegal]

i would argue that a public cop and a regular cop aren't even in the same ballpark of power.

singletonking had an unstoppable, unambiguous clear on someone which then basically forced the scum nightkill there. even being forced to claim d1 couldn't stop his action. that's nothing close to a regular cop investigate.

[OkaPoka]

just make a congress themed game where you need a supermajority and the public surveyors get replaced by news reporters or smthg idk

[northsidegal]

scathing political commentary via a game of mafia is jjh's thing, don't want to steal his groove

[Ankamius]

Being able to bring an army of strong town players is absurdly strong for town

[ThatOneMedic]

oh hey that happened fast
GG all

Sorry you had to jump into my spot, S_S. Wish I'd done a little bit less beforehand, I suppose, but I did actually think I could make this game work for a while. Nice job, though.
Wish I could have stayed around; setup seemed pretty fun, esp. Sky's role.

Will be around a little later to talk more, esp. about that message that showed up early D1. There was a pretty spectacular set of coincidences there that threw me for a total loop. Will explain more when I've got the energy.

p-edit
wow that's a lot
Nim's role seems pretty cool, too.

Sorry if I made the game harder for anyone. :/
Hope to see you guys around again when I can find the time.

[OkaPoka]

haha

"tom"

[OkaPoka]

nim can i guess ur main now

[Lycanfire]

[ThatOneMedic]

okay you know what I feel like I need to explain it now actually

So, going into this (before I knew that anyone else had anonymous messages) I had a pretty good feeling that town!me would immediately try to use the role to get into contact with some sort of investigative PR and just out reports anonymously until GG.
Something along those lines. I figured in a communication-based setup there'd almost certainly be some sort of neighborizer sitting around, so my plan was pretty much to use it pretty close to the start of day 1 with some sort of placeholder message to let people know that some sort of anonymous-messaging role was in the game, then stop for the rest of the day and crumb stuff related to it until someone who hopefully wasn't evil figured it out.

the problematic thing was
the placeholder message that I was going to use
was actually a placeholder emergency broadcast message
specifically one related to a nuclear launch

SO
day starts
I get an interview request from Seal pretty much at start of day (didn't at the time think that it was sent in advance)
think "okay, perfect, this is exactly what town!me would want, if Seal's evil I can probably let it slip at some point that he knows about my role so if I somehow die N1 everyone can probably figure out the reason"
so I claimed to Seal and basically explained my plan

later that day
right after I claimed
an anonymous message shows up
signed by a "TOM"
which was the abbreviation Seal used to refer to me throughout all of my first game
and which specifically referenced a nuclear launch
before I had the opportunity to post my message

I 100% thought Seal had an anonymous message
and had for whatever reason used his to preempt my message/plan
that's exactly what it looked like based on the circumstances

moreover, because at this point I essentially "knew" about 3 different sources of anonymous messages in the game
I started wondering
"okay"
"what is the chance that every single person in this game actually has an anonymous message"
"does scumSeal with a message like that effectively reveal his to me under those circumstances before I even show my own ability"
"especially given the fact that from his point of view if we're the only two with messages it'd probably be more valuable to try to contradict my own messages later on, especially if I get in touch with a PR"
"probably not"
"what does this even gain"
"am I just being messed with"
"what on earth is going on"

[ThatOneMedic]

Anyway, GG all.
Was probably a bad /in from me, but it really did look manageable at the time.
In retrospect, though, I can 100% say that based on the past two weeks it was probably a good idea to let someone else take over.
Will probably be around again in the future. Maybe soon, depending on how things shape up.

[OkaPoka]

heh

[apthet]

That was a lot of fun. Thanks for modding northsidegal. Thanks for playing everyone.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry I scumread your tone

I did several times like get this gut feeling you were town though and that's why I didn't lynch you so.

[apthet]

It's okay! I'm disappointed that my reads weren't as good as they could have been but it was fun anyway.