Micro 867: Pick your Partner - Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

i would enjoy mafia a lot more if I stopped trying to effort as scum

but at the same time there's not a lot of role models in terms of good scum play and I think me giving up trying to godmode as scum would have really bad ripple effects.

[Ankamius]

I learned a lot from FotM

[Firebringer]

i would enjoy mafia a lot more if I stopped trying to effort as scum

but at the same time there's not a lot of role models in terms of good scum play and I think me giving up trying to godmode as scum would have really bad ripple effects.

Okay now that u are retired. Can we point out that there is no fucking way you roll scum so many times naturally and that mods are definitely putting you in scum teams to better balance games?

[Firebringer]

Like I have been suspecting that for nearly a year now and I think you have rolled scum about 9 times this year.

[RadiantCowbells]

the pendulum is swinging really hard towards people resenting rolling scum and tryharding as town and town are winning so many games in like the 'tryhard townie' lobbies
MS doesn't need to become another MU where basically no one gives a shit about playing scum and the few who tryhard at it often are willing to sacrifice their town wr.

Okay now that u are retired. Can we point out that there is no fucking way you roll scum so many times naturally and that mods are definitely putting you in scum teams to better balance games?

in 2016 I rolled scum like 8 times in a row in games that started and as a result I decided to stop playing games from the start and just replace in

[Firebringer]

Okay but like you know mods are putting you in scum roles right? Like how can we prove this because the statistics on this tells me that is bullshit that you get it that many times in a row by pure chance.

[Firebringer]

Like my odds of getting sccum feel pretty normal at around every 7-9 games I get at least one scum game.

[RadiantCowbells]

i feel like i don't get to just join a mafia game and play a mafia game anymore
there's always some sort of meta considerations regarding how i approach games that make it a lot harder to enjoy games.

Okay but like you know mods are putting you in scum roles right? Like how can we prove this because the statistics on this tells me that is bullshit that you get it that many times in a row by pure chance.

it's literally impossible to prove. i don't think STK specifically is the type to give me a scum role b/c he wants to see me as scum though.

Like my odds of getting sccum feel pretty normal at around every 7-9 games I get at least one scum game.

lucky you

[Firebringer]

it's literally impossible to prove. i don't think STK specifically is the type to give me a scum role b/c he wants to see me as scum though.

I think we can at least bring it to attention to people because just the numbers tells a story to me that doesn't say coincidence. It seems impossible to truly moderate though.

[RadiantCowbells]

i can just replace out if people assign me scum roles

i don't think there's really an answer because you can't prove any individual did it and i think bringing up that it happens will actually increase not decrease the rate of it happening.

[Ankamius]

I've never seen worse scumplay win a game of mafia
town should never have lynched Voted day2
Yahmose was not only the counterwagon to my mislynch the entirety of day1
but was also the most likely scum from the setup with MKM and I dead

Tbf

FB and Jingle were pretty obviously VT and sky was approaching things from a town mindset if you really looked for it

Voted was the only town that really could be scum after the mason flips but the way RC handled the wagons was... idk how to describe it other than too similar to his pushes in FotM

[Ankamius]

So yeah normally the mason flips would be horrible for town but it actually cleared my reads up pretty effectively

[Jingle]

I think Jingle doesn't scumread me there without FotM

Nah, the townread on me was weird AF. I was firmly in my scum meta.

[Jingle]

by the way

Jingle and TTTT both needed to lose for the shit that they said to me on D1 that made me completely unwilling to play the game past there.

I wasn't tactically lurking I just refused to play this fucking game.

I needed to be taught a lesson because I wanted to make a mechanically optimal lynch? GTFO.

[Jingle]

If I ever implement a vote for happily ever after, it will be unanimous and all players must agree to it.

Also, anonymous.

RC, if you're concerned with mods giving you scum PMs on purpose, ask potential mods if they'll consent to provable randomness. I use dice tags before the listmod gives me a playerlist for the most part (the BoP's were decided using a D10 on my desk and I use random.org if I'm feeling exceptionally lazy) and that's not hard to prove post game.

[Ankamius]

I think Jingle doesn't scumread me there without FotM

Nah, the townread on me was weird AF. I was firmly in my scum meta.

Then shrug I guess

[schadd_]

you hate to see it folks

[RadiantCowbells]

hate to see what

[TTTT]

it folks

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah fuck people in IT

[Jingle]

Eh, I've always admired murder clowns myself.

[Yahmose]

In response to Fire's assertion that I don't play: It's hard to play when everyone lambasts you because you caught them for wrong reasons. >.>

[Yahmose]

Tell you what: I'll discard every play you make from here on out as bad and insist that you never made any good plays ever (even if you did), and then I'll see how that makes you feel.

[Yahmose]

And no doubt you'll chastise me for pretending YOUR good play never happened while ignoring the fact that you're being a hypocrite.

[Firebringer]

jingle says u get the first punch. so go for it.