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Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 am
by Skygazer
w/e glad this game is done

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 am
by Firebringer
And therefore you didn't deserve a win. But yet you refused to just cancel the game and gracefully let it go.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:44 am
by Ankamius
I'm taking this as a win for calling the team on d2

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:49 am
by singletonking
End game VC here later

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:53 am
by singletonking
Ankamius, Townie, was lynched Day 3

Firebringer, Townie turned Survivor, was modkilled Day 3 for breaking moderator instructions.



Skygazer, Townie, survived but lost!

Prince of Renais and Yahmose, Mafiosos, survived and won. Congratulations!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:59 am
by singletonking
I would like to apologize for the poor handling of the situation. I did notice the requests for happily ever after, but failed to get round to it promptly, and eventually after everyone started voting for it the situation got out of hand. I seeked advice from a listmod, who recommended me to publicly refuse the happily ever after votes, but then turned around to say that I should have ignored the whole thing as it is considered influence as a mod. This led to LyLo being played out in a way it wasn't supposed to be.

What was definitely unacceptable, though, was Firebringer asking for a modkill with the action I just mentioned to avoid doing. Whether I made the correct call or not, it was my decision and it had players had to abide by it.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:00 am
by singletonking
On mobile, so all PTs will be released later.

This thread is being opened for post game discussion.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:00 am
by Firebringer
So you modkill me post game even though I should have been modkilled immediately and that end the game? lol. Nice job, fucking shit mod.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:03 am
by singletonking
In post 882, Firebringer wrote:So you modkill me post game even though I should have been modkilled immediately and that end the game? lol. Nice job, fucking shit mod.
Sorry, I don't deal well with difficult situations.

For the record, Prince did not ask or persuade me to nullify the happily ever after. I seeked listmod advice.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:03 am
by Skygazer
genuinely thought RC lightly towntold by getting paranoid about me and genuinely didn't like ank's reaction to me D2

+ associative between pr/yahm + pr lurking as scum and letting town destroy itself wasn't something i'd consider under usual circumstances but this wasnt usual circumstances

dont really care that i was wrong just glad this is over

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:04 am
by Firebringer
I have no words for most of you here.

This game should have ended with the happy ever after. I would have been fine with that, most of the players here would have been cool with it. I don't even think Ankamius cared if it happened or not. Yahmose doesn't count cause she doesn't play.

You took the game control out of the players to force us to play a game and make this more toxic and made a situation worse when we could have peacefully ended the game.

in summary, fuck you singletonking.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:05 am
by Skygazer
i have no hard feelings for anyone here and im sorry i fucked up

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:05 am
by singletonking
I said that if you didn't want to play, you could ask nicely for a replacement.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:05 am
by Firebringer
This isn't your fault Skygazer. Its the mods fault. Please join me in blaming him.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:06 am
by Ankamius
Sorry for the quickhammers, I know they were not protown

Gg

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:06 am
by Firebringer
In post 887, singletonking wrote:I said that if you didn't want to play, you could ask nicely for a replacement.
And what happens if every player requests replace out? You gonna just replace all the slots?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:07 am
by singletonking
Well... yes. It's what you gotta do as a mod

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:07 am
by RadiantCowbells
i think that accepting happily ever afters even though they would not be inappropriate in this situation is dangerous in general b/c what if town get to lylo with no scum lynches, know they're going to lose, and force a happily ever after vote and lynch whoever doesn't support it?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:08 am
by Firebringer
Theres been 1 happy ever after in the last 3 years I believe.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:08 am
by singletonking
In post 885, Firebringer wrote:I have no words for most of you here.

This game should have ended with the happy ever after. I would have been fine with that, most of the players here would have been cool with it. I don't even think Ankamius cared if it happened or not. Yahmose doesn't count cause she doesn't play.

You took the game control out of the players to force us to play a game and make this more toxic and made a situation worse when we could have peacefully ended the game.

in summary, fuck you singletonking.
Also in any case, I was never accepting a majority vote for a happily ever after. This lets town guarantee a tie in LyLo instead of getting a likely loss.

If I ever implement a vote for happily ever after, it will be unanimous and all players must agree to it.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
i understood it here but i also understand why a listmod pov would be that it's a dangerous precedent to establish.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
notably i think me and yahmose would probably have both agreed to it but I can't speak for her, obviously.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:10 am
by Ankamius
Btw RC I appreciate what you meant when you told me having at least a decent scumgame is not a good thing

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:10 am
by Ankamius
I think Jingle doesn't scumread me there without FotM

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:11 am
by Skygazer
i think happily ever after could be decided on privately through PMs in a situation like this for sure but agree public votes for it open up a whole can of worms in other games