Micro 870: Lynch Happy

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Micro 870: Lynch Happy

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 11:48 am

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Micro # 870
Playerlist:
Prods Indicated with *
Bold = Confirmed


Elsa Jay
Clemency*
NotMySpamAccount
Iconeum
PvtUrist
Austerity, replacing
Datisi

no lunch
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u r a person 2



Spoiler: The Replacements
Austerity replaces Datisi.

Spoiler: The Living
Elsa Jay
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Spoiler: The Dead

Spoiler: We Dare Not Speak Their Names (The Modkilled)
None. Ever. Or else.

Spoiler: Important Links


Current Vote Count (As of)With 9 alive, it is 5 to Lynch

Elsa Jay
Clememcy
NotMySpamAccount
Iconeum
PvtUrist
Datisi
no lunch
Vex Vience
u r a person 2

Not Voting (9): Elsa Jay, Clemency, NotMySpamAccount, Iconeum, PvtUrist, Datisi, no lunch, Vex Vience, u r a person 2

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-16 16:00:00)


Important NotesAll flavor is both public and unimportant to the game itself.
If you'd like to join the Replacement Queue, let me know. Presence on the replacement queue is not a commitment to play, but priority will be given to those players should a replacement become necessary, because they make my job easier. :)
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 11:48 am

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Setup Information:

Lyncher
Hello there! Congratulations on rolling:
Lyncher!


Abilities: along with your natural charisma, your target is [Username], and only you know this fact.

To achieve victory: You win the game if [Username] is lynched. You do not need to be alive for this to happen.


Goon
Hello there! Congratulations on rolling:
Goon!


Abilities: You and [Username] have a PT open throughout the entire game where you are allowed to submit a kill during the night. Click Here too access it.

To achieve victory: You win the game when you make 50% of the living players remaining and the Lyncher hasn't lynched their target before this happens.


Cop
Hello there! Congratulations on rolling:
Cop!


Abilities: During the Night, you may choose to check any of the other players. You will then be given the results "Town" or "Mafia".

To achieve victory: Kill all scum and not lynch the Lyncher's Target before the scum are dead. This requires at minimum 2 town aligned players to be alive.


VT/Lyncher Target
Hello there! Congratulations on rolling:
Vanilla Townie!
... Or did you?

Abilities: You only got your voice and your vote. Use them wisely, because one of you vanilla townies is also a
Lyncher Target,
who loses the game if they are lynched!

To achieve victory: Kill all scum and not lynch the Lyncher's Target before the scum are dead. This requires at minimum 2 town aligned players to be alive.


The Rules: Always in Effect1. Don't be a dick.
2. This is a game for fun. Act like it.
3. Pretending to break a rule IS breaking a rule.
4. Don't PROVABLY quote priveledged information.
5. Try not to allow outside influences to affect the game.
6. Follow Site Rules.
7. If you think it should be against the rules, assume it is.
8. I will change these at any time for the integrity of the game or if I think it will increase the enjoyment of the players.


The Rules: This Game1. The Lyncher Target will receive a Vanilla Town Role PM.

2. Cop Results will be Mafia/Not Mafia. The Lynchee will appear as Mafia.

3. If the Lyncher Target is Nightkilled, the Lyncher will be endgamed immediately.

4. If the Lyncher Target is Lynched, the Lyncher wins and both Town and Mafia are immediately endgamed.

5. Lynching is decided by plurality. If majority is reached before the deadline, the day will end. No Lynch is not an option.

6. Prods will happen after 48 hours of inactivity.

7. If the Lyncher OR Lynchee is targeted for a kill on N1, No Kill will occur.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 11:54 am

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Vote Count 1.0
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With 9 alive, it is 5 to Lynch

Elsa Jay (0):
Clememcy (0):
NotMySpamAccount (0):
Iconeum (0):
PvtUrist (0):
Datisi (0):
no lunch (0):
Vex Vience (0):
u r a person 2 (0):

Not Voting (9): Elsa Jay, Clemency, NotMySpamAccount, Iconeum, PvtUrist, Datisi, no lunch, Vex Vience, u r a person 2

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-16 16:00:00).
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:06 pm

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VOTE: Vex Vience
Everybody should sheep me on this.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:07 pm

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VOTE: elsa jay

lets get the game rolling.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:07 pm

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im actually about to post some thoughts i had pre-game nl.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:08 pm

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As the creator of this setup, obviously I know the perfect plan is to follow my lead because I know what I'm doing here.

VOTE: PvtUrist

Now let's get me a win d1 guys.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:08 pm

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VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:14 pm

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I'm feeling personally attacked RN.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:17 pm

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Vote Count 1.1
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With 9 alive, it is 5 to Lynch

Elsa Jay (2): , ,
PvtUrist (1):
Vex Vience (0):
Clememcy (0):
NotMySpamAccount (0):
Iconeum (0):
Datisi (0):
no lunch (0):
u r a person 2 (0):

Not Voting (6): Clemency, NotMySpamAccount, Iconeum, PvtUrist, Datisi, u r a person 2

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-16 16:00:00). Currently this means that Elsa Jay will be lynched.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 5, Vex Vience wrote:im actually about to post some thoughts i had pre-game nl.
I dunno why this is pinging me but it is

VOTE: Vex Vience
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:35 pm

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so first things first, everyone should hypo-claim as cop everyday. once the cop dies, we stop it but until then, we hypo-cop. my logic behind that is we can safely get the cop results out there without directly telling everyone who the cop is. even though the cop is very unreliable in this game, we can at least use it to figure out who is good or not since once the cop dies, we know not to lynch anyone the cop checked since they can't be mafia, just vt or lyncher.

the second thing i was getting at with my thoughts is that we shouldnt lynch the lyncher today. unless the lyncher just randomly claims they are the lyncher, i think not lynching them today is much better. mafia is more likely to hit a bp if we leave them alive today. it's a 2/6 v 1/6 if both mafia alive and a 2/7 v 1/7 if one mafia alive. however, if the lyncher outs themselves, we have to lynch them at that point basically. itll mean that any innocents the cop finds is guaranteed to be a townie and it means that a lot of possible outcomes are simplified.

third thing: in i believe all the situations i looked at, if mafia successfully kills n1 and town/lyncher is lynched d1, town always ends up in mylo d2. but speaking of mylo, i believe you always lynch the lyncher claim in mylo. i looked at it, and theoretically mafia could become lynchproof by using that. in mylo, we cant lynch the lyncher otherwise mafia wins. lyncher cant cc it otherwise they lose pretty much everytime. they have to rely on the town randomly voting their target in order to win that situation. therefore the mafia can just get away with a lyncher claim and win the game.

@elsa you do realize that this setup is extremely scumsided btw?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:36 pm

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sorry for delay on thoughts, i was debating on including the mylo thing and i didnt fully write out my thoughts beforehand. i thought i had more time to before the game started.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 10, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 5, Vex Vience wrote:im actually about to post some thoughts i had pre-game nl.
I dunno why this is pinging me but it is

VOTE: Vex Vience
is this vote a serious one or a rvs one?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:37 pm

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youre blurring the line with your reasoning.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:42 pm

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In post 13, Vex Vience wrote:
In post 10, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 5, Vex Vience wrote:im actually about to post some thoughts i had pre-game nl.
I dunno why this is pinging me but it is

VOTE: Vex Vience
is this vote a serious one or a rvs one?
It was an rvs-serious vote. As in, it did ping me, but it isn't a strong read.

I'm failing to understand how we hit mylo d2 with a mislynch unless scum hit's the lynch target n1. Help?
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:48 pm

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In post 11, Vex Vience wrote:
@elsa you do realize that this setup is extremely scumsided btw?
I have absolutely no idea what you mean. I put balance at the forefront of the list. 40-20-40 seemed balanced me.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:52 pm

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u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 13, Vex Vience wrote:
In post 10, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 5, Vex Vience wrote:im actually about to post some thoughts i had pre-game nl.
I dunno why this is pinging me but it is

VOTE: Vex Vience
is this vote a serious one or a rvs one?
It was an rvs-serious vote. As in, it did ping me, but it isn't a strong read.

I'm failing to understand how we hit mylo d2 with a mislynch unless scum hit's the lynch target n1. Help?
5v2v1 > 4v2v1/5v2 > 3v2v1/4v2 (d2)

second one should be obvious, but the first one is a technical mylo. if the mafia shoot the lyncher target n2, they win automatically. (3v2v1 (d2) > 2v2v1 > 1v2 (d3)). the lyncher is endgamed because they cant win, and since theres only one townie left and two mafia, the townie is endgamed. obviously, if they dont shoot the lyncher, we got another day, but both are contingent on the nk.

also, for it pinging you:
i posted thoughts about the game before i got a rolecard in stack the deck. im doing the same exact thing here. if im scum, why would i bother doing this? wouldnt it be easier for scum!me to just let the rvs vote slide and not say i even bothered thinking about anything pre-game?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:54 pm

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In post 16, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 11, Vex Vience wrote:
@elsa you do realize that this setup is extremely scumsided btw?
I have absolutely no idea what you mean. I put balance at the forefront of the list. 40-20-40 seemed balanced me.
mafia win most of the situations i explored. lyncher wins a couple but only if they can convince people to lynch their target, (which is hard to do). town loses pretty much all of them since we reach mylo really quickly and we have to lynch mafia both days, back-to-back. by the time the game goes into a mylo-state, the cop wouldve found one or two innocents, which one of those could be the lyncher.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 17, Jingle wrote: Basically, this setup is poorly balanced but probably fun in spite of it. :)

I might work out the EV later, but I assume it's somewhere around 20/40/40.
Hey, I never garunteed balance, Vex, just some fun and shenanigans. Here's a quote from Jingle himself about it.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:58 pm

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before i realized i fucked up the numbers somewhere on like the d2 situations which messed up most lyncher situations, i remember seeing mafia winning probably 6/8 endgames i found. town won the last two. i didnt include any possibilities where lyncher won though. too tedious for me.

pedit: ik that but its still a horribly balanced setup. i just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:58 pm

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i may attempt to redo all the possible endgames in a bit though. if i do figure out all of them, ill post them in a spoiler.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 12:59 pm

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You try and balance a Micro with a Third Party in it next time. Spoil sport.

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 1:01 pm

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i actually will attempt it sometime. not today though.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu May 09, 2019 1:12 pm

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nvm actually. im not gonna bother trying to make all possible outcomes anymore. like half of them have technical mylos where if scum kills the lyncher target they win and i dont wanna deal with that. i could just not include them but then i have to figure out which ones have that, and its just a mess.
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