Micro 878: Chain of Command [Game Over]

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Post Post #1875  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:21 am

In post 1872, Iconeum wrote:But still, Aubrey is never the second lynch. Doc is cleared.

This is assuming scum didn't no-kill. Which I'm not 100% sold on yet honestly
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again.
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Post Post #1876  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 am

Still, night actions are a thing if Voted is town.

Scum can only work around 2 protectives for so long until they run into trouble
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Post Post #1877  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:31 am

Speaking from experience Ico babe?
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Post Post #1878  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:34 am

In post 1861, Iconeum wrote:Datisi - Apparently captain decided to NOT follow the plan, and not protect me (the JK). And I'm still alive. So town.

@ico, from your pov, how does that clear me?

@sau, your thoughts on the RP's plan?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again.
You can come back and be like “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor” and I will go “okay, Locke kill it is then”
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Post Post #1879  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:59 am

You deviated from the plan, and there's a no kill. I don't think that's coincidence.
RP was a legit NK target, and I believe the doc stopped the kill.

Scum wouldn't have purposefully deviated from the plan to get a No Kill during night I believe.
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Post Post #1880  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:59 am

In post 1877, Saudade wrote:Speaking from experience Ico babe?


Why are you voting me?
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Post Post #1881  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:00 am

I think I pushed LJK hard enough to at least get SOME town credit for it.

Voted is next in the pool. Should be obvious. If saudude wants to talk about why he thinks i'm the next lynch, i'm here.
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Post Post #1882  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:06 am

A quick ISO of myself to show how hard I pushed towards LJK lynch over anyone else.
If you think I bussed, then kill me. Simple as that
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In post 1407, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1405, Saudade wrote:Tempted to just end it all


Convince me to lynch Liz over you today?

In post 1523, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1431, RedPanda wrote:ok scum iconeum might not have risked that when doc aubrey was the best target so it goes back to why blake was killed instead of aubrey and I'm pretty sure it was because voted was the win condition and they were scared blake would be the one that would stop it.

In post 1500, RedPanda wrote:Can we just ignore players? We have two scum who don't have any control over power roles and who don't know what the power roles are apart from the doc? Do they really have the balls to let that strong foursome live?


The NK on BW is a tough one to dissect. Liz hydra had little to gain killing them, over say a doc. But then again, neither did Pers and they keep twisting this information to fit a narrative which i dislike.

I'm fine lynching saudude or Liz slot, I'm never lynching the Pers slot this day.

In post 1532, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1531, RedPanda wrote:LJK you asked me not to mech solve.

I think you stop trying to solve based on "blake has been known to not correctly read persi"


This really bothers me about the LJK slot. They are using blake's townread to justify themselves as conftown for not killing someone townreading them, but they turn it around when it involves another blake townread

In post 1535, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1526, RedPanda wrote:Vote aubrey

I'm going to use occams razor.


Lynching the claimed doc huh

In post 1545, Iconeum wrote:I think I'm choosing LJK slot over Voted for lynch

In post 1549, Iconeum wrote:Feels to me like LKJ slot is trying to get out from an unwinneable 1v1 with you, Redpanda

In post 1553, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1551, RedPanda wrote:ljk partner can only be you ice :P


then consider this a hard bus and say thank you :lol:

In post 1708, Iconeum wrote:Fair enough, and I mostly agree with your reads

LJK should be the lynch today, not Saudude

In post 1712, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1709, RedPanda wrote:Icon what's your read on nancy interaction with me?


I don't feel town AtE. I feel and see deliberate, calculated moves to sway you. Just like with me.

But for what little I think I have played with Nancy, that's how it plays so it's actually NAI for me.
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Post Post #1883  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:09 am

From my PoE and night actions these are all town:

Datisi
Aubrey
RP

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Saudude - because of his focus on flipped scum

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Voted

If anyone wants to discuss this, have at it. If you truly think I bussed like that, lynch me. Kill Voted tomorrow.
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Post Post #1884  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:12 am

In post 993, Voted wrote:
In post 990, Datisi wrote:
In post 988, Voted wrote:
In post 985, Iconeum wrote:
In post 982, Saudade wrote:But they scum


we can still use their information

If they are scum, they will claim their target is town.

What does that even mean? There's not even a possibility for a cop?

Follower. If scum!they targeted their scummate who killed sameone, will they claim it?

This post isn't sitting well with me. LJK wasn't out as the Follower at the time
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again.
You can come back and be like “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor” and I will go “okay, Locke kill it is then”
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Post Post #1885  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:30 am

Voted's ISO is difficult to make sense of.

Pushing LJK, not following up on it. Continuesly pushes a scumteam of Icon/Datisi.

--> Locktowned B&W, so has incentive to kill them during night.

Fake hammered LJK, continued to push Icon/Datisi.

Came to a point where Voted wouldn't lynch outside of (Iconeum).
Then switches to Saudude.

Voted is all over the place. It would make sense if they are LJK buddy through ISO reading. This should be the lynch today.

Saudude if you help lynch Voted today, I will awknowledge (publicly) how good of a player you really are.
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Post Post #1886  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:51 am

Actually Icon is town. LJK did gambit after the lynch and the only reason that I can think of is for nightkill to be icon. Scum aubrey optimal choice is to kill Icon but didn't take it.

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Post Post #1887  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:59 am

In post 1886, RedPanda wrote:Scum aubrey optimal choice is to kill Icon but didn't take it.

I've been thinking about this. I'm not sure I agree. The plan was for him to protect Icon, and only me and Aubrey knew that wasn't going to be the case. Had Icon died, the two of us would've most likely been next. And even if scum!Aubrey managed to convince everyone to lynch me first, he would've followed.

In any case, another thought came to me. Voted wasn't online since before the end of Day 2. Unless he was online as hidden, maybe there's no nightkill simply because nobody was there to give it?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again.
You can come back and be like “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor” and I will go “okay, Locke kill it is then”
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Post Post #1888  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:01 am

In post 1887, Datisi wrote:In any case, another thought came to me. Voted wasn't online since before the end of Day 2. Unless he was online as hidden, maybe there's no nightkill simply because nobody was there to give it?


I don't like to play this game though.

I'd much rather talk about why Voted should be the next lynch, why Voted is scum, why I'm NOT scum :lol:
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Post Post #1889  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:01 am

VOTE: Voted

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Post Post #1890  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:02 am

Fair enough. I'm down with lynching Voted, but I'm unsure what comes after that if he flips green.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again.
You can come back and be like “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor” and I will go “okay, Locke kill it is then”
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Post Post #1891  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:04 am

Fairly sure it's scum
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Post Post #1892  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:09 am

In post 1887, Datisi wrote:
In post 1886, RedPanda wrote:Scum aubrey optimal choice is to kill Icon but didn't take it.

I've been thinking about this. I'm not sure I agree. The plan was for him to protect Icon, and only me and Aubrey knew that wasn't going to be the case. Had Icon died, the two of us would've most likely been next. And even if scum!Aubrey managed to convince everyone to lynch me first, he would've followed.

In any case, another thought came to me. Voted wasn't online since before the end of Day 2. Unless he was online as hidden, maybe there's no nightkill simply because nobody was there to give it?


I think it was still optimal because aubrey still had the lifeline of maybe talking out of her lynch saying scum took a chance on LJK gambit working out.

the other way is just autoloss since if we follow my plan we have three lynches instead of 2.

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Post Post #1893  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:06 am

In post 1880, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1877, Saudade wrote:Speaking from experience Ico babe?


Why are you voting me?

Because you are scum pushing on the weakest player on the table
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Post Post #1894  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:07 am

I was right on the hydra ill be right on this one
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Post Post #1895  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:07 am

Just like i was right in every single read I made in the past 4 games
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Post Post #1896  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:07 am

Its really sad no one listens to me here
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Post Post #1897  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:09 am

why did i supposedly bus my partner instead of getting you lynched?
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Post Post #1898  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:09 am

I'm a big part of the reason YOUR read got lynched
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Post Post #1899  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:22 am

Sau, do you have any reason for tring Voted other than "he didn't ping me"?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again.
You can come back and be like “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor” and I will go “okay, Locke kill it is then”
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